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Bell Labs Scientist Says Spoon Bending Is Real Based on Personal Experience and Metallurgical Analysis

Joe Rogan Experience · #2513 - Dean Radin · June 11, 2026
Bell Labs Scientist Says Spoon Bending Is Real Based on Personal Experience and Metallurgical Analysis
Joe Rogan Experience
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#2513 - Dean Radin
"I had bent it 90 degrees. I immediately look at my fingers. Did I do this by force? No, no indication, no indentation or anything. If you're holding it like that and you can do between 50 and 70 pounds of force suddenly, like an impulse, you will cause the lattice that forms the grain boundary to momentarily soften."
Radin described his personal experience bending the bowl of a spoon at a 'spoon bending party' without apparent physical force, a phenomenon he initially thought impossible. He explained the metallurgical mechanism: an impulse of 50-70 pounds of force momentarily softens the metal's grain boundary for about 20 seconds, allowing manipulation with minimal pressure. He emphasized the event occurred during an unusual state of intense motivation where he felt he 'needed' to achieve the result, though he did not consciously recognize performing the action at the time.

About this episode

On this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, host Joe Rogan interviewed Dean Radin, a scientist who has spent decades researching consciousness and psychic phenomena at institutions including Bell Labs, Princeton, and the classified Stargate remote viewing program. Radin revealed previously undisclosed details about his work on Stargate at SRI International under Hal Puthoff, describing the extreme secrecy levels including top secret SCI special access clearances where even the code word was classified. He recounted operational successes including a remote viewer locating a crashed nuclear bomber in Africa that President Carter later publicly confirmed. The conversation covered Radin's groundbreaking genetic research on psychic ability, revealing that people with psychic talents are genetically 'wild type' while non-psychics have mutations in intron sequences that suppress these abilities. His team discovered these suppressing mutations are more prevalent in countries with longer Christian exposure, suggesting the Inquisition systematically eliminated psychic individuals, leaving a visible genetic signature. Radin also discussed his biotech company Cognigenics, which is developing an intranasal RNA treatment that showed 100% memory improvement and near-total anxiety reduction in animal studies, now advancing to primate trials for eventual human dementia treatment with potential cognitive enhancement applications. The episode explored philosophical questions about consciousness, materialism versus idealism, and whether reality is fundamentally mental or physical. Radin shared personal experiences including successfully bending a spoon and an extraordinary four-part synchronicity where he manifested meeting another psi researcher whose lab contained the exact equipment Radin had been drawing on a whiteboard. Throughout, Radin emphasized that while psychic phenomena produce small statistical effects in controlled laboratory settings, real-world applications and historical accounts suggest far greater capabilities exist that science has yet to fully understand or replicate.

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