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Former Stargate Scientist Reveals Classified Remote Viewing Program Details and Clearance Levels

Joe Rogan Experience · #2513 - Dean Radin · June 11, 2026
Former Stargate Scientist Reveals Classified Remote Viewing Program Details and Clearance Levels
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#2513 - Dean Radin
"I took a leave of absence for 1 year from Bell Labs. Hal Puthoff was my boss, and then Ed May, when Hal left in 1985, Ed May took over. It took a long time to get the clearances because it's top secret SCI special access program, which means there's literally a book that you have to sign. The code word was classified."
Dean Radin disclosed working on the classified Stargate remote viewing program at SRI International after leaving Bell Labs in the 1980s. He described the extreme secrecy levels, including that even the code word itself was classified and that special access meant even top-secret clearance holders could not know about the program. He detailed the research side versus the operational military side and emphasized the challenge of maintaining classified work while the outside world dismissed psychic phenomena entirely.

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On this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, host Joe Rogan interviewed Dean Radin, a scientist who has spent decades researching consciousness and psychic phenomena at institutions including Bell Labs, Princeton, and the classified Stargate remote viewing program. Radin revealed previously undisclosed details about his work on Stargate at SRI International under Hal Puthoff, describing the extreme secrecy levels including top secret SCI special access clearances where even the code word was classified. He recounted operational successes including a remote viewer locating a crashed nuclear bomber in Africa that President Carter later publicly confirmed. The conversation covered Radin's groundbreaking genetic research on psychic ability, revealing that people with psychic talents are genetically 'wild type' while non-psychics have mutations in intron sequences that suppress these abilities. His team discovered these suppressing mutations are more prevalent in countries with longer Christian exposure, suggesting the Inquisition systematically eliminated psychic individuals, leaving a visible genetic signature. Radin also discussed his biotech company Cognigenics, which is developing an intranasal RNA treatment that showed 100% memory improvement and near-total anxiety reduction in animal studies, now advancing to primate trials for eventual human dementia treatment with potential cognitive enhancement applications. The episode explored philosophical questions about consciousness, materialism versus idealism, and whether reality is fundamentally mental or physical. Radin shared personal experiences including successfully bending a spoon and an extraordinary four-part synchronicity where he manifested meeting another psi researcher whose lab contained the exact equipment Radin had been drawing on a whiteboard. Throughout, Radin emphasized that while psychic phenomena produce small statistical effects in controlled laboratory settings, real-world applications and historical accounts suggest far greater capabilities exist that science has yet to fully understand or replicate.

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