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Danger Close | The Fourth Option Podcast: Ben Owen & Jessica Owen

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Danger Close | The Fourth Option Podcast: Ben Owen & Jessica Owen
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In this powerful episode, host Jack Carr sits down with Ben and Jessica, the founders of We Fight Monsters, a Memphis-based nonprofit combating addiction and human trafficking. Both recovering addicts who spent years living in South Memphis trap houses, the couple has transformed their lived experience into a grassroots rescue operation that has shut down five fentanyl trafficking networks since 2023 without sending anyone to jail. Ben, a former Pfizer pharmaceutical sales representative who became addicted to the pain medications he promoted, and Jessica, who grew up surrounded by addiction and violence, share harrowing details of their years in the drug underworld before getting sober in 2019. The conversation details how drug dealers use addiction as a tool of modern slavery and how the couple now operates 10 safe houses sheltering 100 to 120 people at any given time. Their unconventional methods include purchasing former trap houses and converting them into recovery housing, working cooperatively with the same law enforcement agencies that once arrested them, and even lobbying the White House to redirect a federal law enforcement surge from Chicago to Memphis. The episode also covers their unexpected role in the 2021 Afghanistan evacuation, during which they operated 68 safe houses across the country and rescued an Afghan woman who now lives with them as their ninth child. Ben and Jessica emphasize that political ideology dissolves in the face of human suffering and that their model of rescue, recovery, and restoration can be replicated nationwide. They challenge listeners to identify what breaks their heart and run toward it rather than away, promising that purpose lies in confronting discomfort.

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Crime & Justice

Nonprofit Shuts Down Five Fentanyl Operations Without Sending Anyone to Jail

We Fight Monsters, a Memphis-based nonprofit run by former addicts Ben and Jessica, has dismantled five fentanyl trafficking operations since early 2023 using relationship-building rather than law enforcement arrests. They purchased four former trap houses and converted them into recovery housing. The organization now houses 100 to 120 people at any given time and works cooperatively with the same police agencies that previously arrested the founders.

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Crime & Justice

Memphis Violent Crime Drops 70 Percent After White House Federal Surge Intervention

Ben testified that after lobbying the White House Deputy Chief of Staff, Memphis received a federal law enforcement surge originally planned for Chicago. Memphis, previously ranked the fifth deadliest city globally, has seen violent crime fall 70% in the past year. The founders attribute part of this success to their ground-level anti-trafficking and anti-fentanyl work coordinated with multiple law enforcement agencies.

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Geopolitics

Couple Ran 68 Safe Houses Across Afghanistan During Evacuation Without Government Support

Ben and Jessica, former addicts turned nonprofit founders, operated 68 safe houses across Afghanistan during the 2021 evacuation while government contractors and agency personnel hesitated over legal concerns. The couple leveraged data intelligence skills to track missing Afghan families and funded the operation by selling their electronics recycling business. One Afghan woman they rescued now lives with them in Memphis and is attending medical school.

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Health, Longevity & Biohacking

Former Pfizer Drug Rep Becomes Homeless Heroin Addict After Selling Pain Medications

Ben disclosed that despite working as a pharmaceutical sales representative for Pfizer educating physicians on pain management drugs, he became addicted to the very opiates he was promoting. His addiction escalated from prescription pills to an $800-per-day IV heroin habit, eventually leaving him homeless in Memphis trap houses. The revelation highlights the irony of industry insiders falling victim to the products they sell.

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Crime & Justice

Former Drug Dealer Reveals Human Slavery Through Addiction in Memphis Trap Houses

Ben, a former addict and resident of Memphis trap houses, described how drug dealers use addiction as a tool of labor trafficking and coercion. He explained that dealers leverage addicts' dependence to force them to hold drugs, sell drugs, and take all legal risks while the dealers avoid arrest. This same mechanism drives sex trafficking, as victims are controlled through their substance dependency rather than physical restraints.

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