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Fukuyama argues China rivals liberal democracy but may not endure

By Egleze Editorial Desk · Published September 13, 2026 · The Ezra Klein Show · Francis Fukuyama on Trump, China and the Legacy of 9/11 | The Ezra Klein Show
Fukuyama argues China rivals liberal democracy but may not endure
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"I think that there are reasons to still regard that as an open question because you know their economy is based on doubling down on this export-driven you know model that made them rich in the first place. That's not a sustainable model. They've got big problems in their property market. uh they're going to have huge problems with unemployment, youth unemployment there is already uh at extraordinarily high levels."

Francis Fukuyama argues China is the only alternative system that could plausibly compete with liberal democracy, citing state capacity and technological strength. He says it is unclear whether China’s model is sustainable, pointing to export dependence, property-market strains and high youth unemployment.

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