Tucker Carlson interviews investigative journalist Steve Baker in an extensive examination of the January 6 pipe bomb mystery, one of the most significant unresolved aspects of that day's events. Baker, who was criminally charged for his January 6 journalism and spent years analyzing Capitol security footage, presents evidence challenging the official narrative. He claims the pipe bombs planted at the RNC and DNC were inert training devices, not real explosives, and that FBI leadership knew this immediately. Baker alleges Capitol Police counter-surveillance officers had foreknowledge of the bomb locations, going directly to the only two spots the bomber had sat the previous night. Most explosively, Baker identifies former Capitol Police officer Shaunie Kirkoff, now employed by the CIA, as the likely bomber based on gait recognition technology showing a 94-98% match. He reports Kirkoff failed an FBI polygraph about the bombings. Five days after Baker publicly named Kirkoff, the FBI arrested Brian Cole Jr., an autistic black man who Baker argues is physically incompatible with the bomber based on shoe size and gait analysis. Baker also reveals that U.S. Army special operators were embedded in the January 6 crowd under orders, and that a Homeland Security Investigations agent assigned to investigate the pipe bombs was found dead under suspicious circumstances, with intelligence community sources refusing to believe it was suicide. The episode details alleged FBI efforts to silence Baker's reporting, including five attempts to get him fired, and reveals that House Republican leadership prohibited the January 6 committee from investigating the Capitol Police. Baker argues January 6 was not a spontaneous event but a manipulated operation involving elements of the Department of Defense, Capitol Police, and CIA designed to permanently damage Donald Trump's political future.
Baker reveals that a U.S. Army special operator told him elite military units were embedded in the January 6 crowd in plain clothes under orders. Newsweek later published an article titled 'Secret Commandos with Shoot to Kill Orders at January 6,' which the author subsequently denied, refusing to discuss it further. The Pentagon has never acknowledged this deployment.
Read this moment →Investigative journalist Steve Baker claims Capitol Police counter-surveillance officers knew exactly where to find the January 6 pipe bombs, suggesting foreknowledge of an operation. Baker states the devices were training bombs, not real explosives, and that FBI leadership informed agents the devices were inert from day one. He alleges the operation was designed to divert resources from the Capitol during the certification vote.
Read this moment →Baker alleges FBI executives, including Dan Bongino, repeatedly contacted his employers at The Blaze attempting to silence his reporting on the January 6 pipe bombs and FBI whistleblowers. The calls escalated from complaints to attempts to get him terminated. This occurred as Baker was developing evidence contradicting the official narrative and identifying Kirkoff as a suspect.
Read this moment →A 19-year Homeland Security Investigations senior agent who was assigned to investigate the January 6 pipe bomb case was found dead in his condo on November 26, days after being briefed on how he would pursue the investigation. His body was cremated three weeks later before a medical examiner's report was issued. The new condo owner was told the previous occupant was murdered. No autopsy report has been released six months later.
Read this moment →Baker claims gait recognition software matched the January 6 pipe bomber to Shaunie Kirkoff, a former Capitol Police officer who joined the CIA before January 6. The analysis showed a 94-98% match based on a distinctive leg injury gait. Kirkoff allegedly failed an FBI polygraph about the bombings and gave rehearsed answers. The FBI arrested an autistic black man, Brian Cole Jr., five days after Baker named Kirkoff publicly.
Read this moment →Representative Barry Loudermilk told Baker directly that House leadership under Mike Johnson and Jim Jordan required him to agree not to investigate the Capitol Police as a condition for continuing his January 6 investigation. Baker argues this restriction makes a genuine investigation impossible, comparing it to the Jeffrey Epstein search warrants designed to obscure rather than reveal truth.
Read this moment →Video evidence shows Secret Service agents protecting Vice President-elect Kamala Harris at the DNC had virtually no reaction when told a pipe bomb was 10 feet away. They remained seated eating for over two minutes and never established perimeters. Baker suggests they were told the devices were part of a training exercise, explaining their lack of concern despite official claims the bombs were dangerous.
Read this moment →Multiple FBI sources told Baker the January 6 pipe bombs were identified immediately as inert training devices by federal agents and bomb experts from multiple agencies. Despite this, the FBI continued publicly characterizing them as dangerous weapons of mass destruction and charged suspect Brian Cole Jr. with terrorism for allegedly planting them.
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