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Joe Rogan Experience #2546 - Michael Button

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Joe Rogan Experience #2546 - Michael Button
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Joe Rogan speaks with YouTuber Michael Button about recent archaeological and palaeoanthropological research that Button says challenges standard timelines for human behaviour and early civilisation. Button frames the discussion around three questions: why complex societies appeared in multiple regions within a relatively narrow window, how old “modern” human intelligence is, and when humans first reached isolated landmasses such as the Americas and Australia.

He cites reported finds of stone tools on islands east of the Wallace Line (including Sulawesi and Flores) dated to more than a million years ago, arguing they are more consistent with deliberate sea crossings than accidental drift. Button also discusses a reported CT-based reconstruction of a million-year-old skull from Yunxian, China, saying it may be linked to Homo longi/Denisovan-related lineages and could imply earlier divergence dates than widely taught.

On the peopling of the Americas, Button references accepted White Sands footprints (about 22,000 years) and more contested sites, including Chiquihuite Cave, Pedra Furada, and the controversial Hueyatlaco claim of tools beneath volcanic ash dated to roughly 250,000 years, while noting evidentiary disputes and missing artefacts. He makes similar arguments for Australia, mentioning a southern site dated to about 120,000 years as suggestive but not established.

Rogan and Button also touch on estimates of large-scale prehistoric copper extraction around Lake Superior, possible proto-writing or long-lived symbolic systems in Ice Age art, and a reported 31,000-year-old amputation case as evidence of unexpectedly sophisticated medical care in deep prehistory.

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Button alleges Mexico’s Hueyatlaco tools sit beneath ash dated to 250,000 years

Button recounts the controversial Hueyatlaco site near Puebla, Mexico, where he says stone tools were found beneath volcanic ash layers that produced much older dates than expected. He claims a camel pelvis from the same layer dated to roughly 250,000 years, and says the findings faced heavy scepticism during the “Clovis first” era, with publication delayed and key artefacts later missing.

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Rogan cites estimate of 1.5bn pounds from ancient Lake Superior copper mines

In a discussion about early metallurgy, Joe Rogan reads out a figure shown on-screen describing an estimate of up to 1.5 billion pounds (about 680,000 metric tons) of copper extracted in the Lake Superior region over millennia. Button argues the scale suggests a sustained prehistoric copper-working “industry”, though the on-screen text notes the estimate covers long periods rather than a single era.

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