Teachers Give Same Essay Grades 1-2 Points Different Based on Their Mood

About this episode

Mel Robbins interviews Dr. Marc Brackett, founding director of the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence and professor at Yale School of Medicine, about the science of emotional intelligence and how learning to understand emotions can transform lives. Dr. Brackett, whose evidence-based framework is used by over 10 million students in 5,000 schools, shares groundbreaking research revealing that two-thirds of adults never had an emotional ally during childhood—a deficit that impacts lifelong wellbeing. In a vulnerable disclosure, Brackett reveals he was sexually abused from ages 5 to 10 by his parents' caretaker and suppressed this trauma until age 48. His work began after his Uncle Marvin, a sixth-grade teacher developing a feelings curriculum, became the first adult to ask how he felt. The conversation centers on Brackett's RULER framework—Recognize, Understand, Label, Express, and Regulate emotions—which he argues are teachable skills, not fixed traits. He presents striking research showing teachers grade identical essays 1-2 full letter grades differently based on their mood, and that 70% of Yale students who report stress and boredom are actually experiencing envy from social comparison. Brackett explains how emotions pile up like debt when unexpressed, leading to denial, suppression, and shame. He introduces practical regulation strategies including permission to feel, building vocabulary for emotions, deactivation techniques, temporal distancing, and observing rather than absorbing others' emotional states. The episode emphasizes that emotional intelligence directly impacts attention, judgment, relationship quality, physical and mental health, and performance, with Brackett noting many high-achieving students fail not from lack of intelligence but inability to process feelings and handle feedback.