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Therapeutic Boarding School Conducted Conversion Therapy and Forced Student to Watch Movie About His Parents

Rich Roll Podcast · Smile, Or You're Doing It Wrong: Andy Glaze On Relentless Positivity, PTSD, & The Healing Power Of Movement · May 18, 2026
Therapeutic Boarding School Conducted Conversion Therapy and Forced Student to Watch Movie About His Parents
Rich Roll Podcast
Rich Roll Podcast
Smile, Or You're Doing It Wrong: Andy Glaze On Relentless Positivity, PTSD, & The Healing Power Of Movement
"We had a kid there who was gay and they decided they were going to be able to make him not gay, and did all these weird things. They made him like wear a pink crown and all these different things. And it was just, it was like, it was total emotional torture. We had a kid whose Mom killed his dad and he was like a real famous guy and they made a Lifetime movie about him. And the headmaster made him watch the Lifetime movie with all of us."
Glaze described abusive practices at John Dewey Academy, a therapeutic boarding school in Massachusetts where he was sent after rehab. He detailed conversion therapy attempts on a gay student involving forced humiliation, and an incident where a student whose mother murdered his father was forced to watch a Lifetime movie dramatization of the killing in front of the entire student body. Glaze characterized the school's aggressive group therapy methods as weaponizing fear and shame.

About this episode

On this episode of the Rich Roll Podcast, host Rich Roll interviewed Andy Glaze, an ultra-endurance athlete, paramedic, and author known as the smiling ultra runner. The conversation centered on Glaze's harrowing journey from severe crystal meth addiction as a teenager to becoming one of the world's most inspiring endurance athletes, currently maintaining a 320-week streak of running 100 miles per week. Glaze revealed for the first time publicly that he was sexually abused by a teacher at age 16-17 while attending John Dewey Academy, a therapeutic boarding school in Massachusetts, and that the teacher continued the pattern with other students and eventually became pregnant by one of them. The episode explored Glaze's descent into addiction at age 15 following his father's terminal cancer diagnosis, his placement in abusive therapeutic programs including wilderness camps and a boarding school that practiced conversion therapy, and his multiple cycles of sobriety and relapse. Most significantly, Glaze disclosed that after using ultra running to manage severe PTSD from his work as a paramedic for five years, it has recently stopped working, forcing him to seek therapy including EMDR and CPT. The conversation examined the complex relationship between addiction and extreme endurance sports, with Glaze acknowledging he has an obsessive-compulsive relationship with running that may be masking rather than healing underlying trauma. Roll and Glaze discussed transformation as a decades-long process requiring patience, the importance of failing forward, and how personal growth serves others beyond oneself.

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