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True History of the Middle East with Simon Sebag Montefiore

Triggernometry · 22 August 2026 · 2h 17m · 5 Egleze moments
True History of the Middle East with Simon Sebag Montefiore ▶

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Historian Simon Sebag Montefiore discusses themes from his book on the modern Middle East, arguing that the region’s contemporary conflicts cannot be separated from the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the First World War settlements. He disputes simplified readings of Sykes–Picot, emphasising later treaties and the League of Nations “mandate” system, which he characterises as imperial rule under a new label. Montefiore describes the rise of competing nationalisms and the formation of new states, including Turkey’s emergence under Atatürk and the population exchange with Greece.

On Palestine and Israel, he traces British policy shifts, Arab and Jewish leadership divisions, and the 1947 UN partition plan, which he calls militarily unworkable. He makes contested claims about the 1947–48 refugee flight, arguing that large numbers of Palestinian Arabs left before Israel’s declaration of independence, while also describing Israeli expulsions from Lydda and Ramle as an “atrocity”. He also recounts the role of Haj Amin al-Husseini, alleging ideological alignment with Nazism and describing wartime contacts with Hitler.

The discussion later turns to Iran: the Pahlavi state’s creation and reforms, Western and Soviet intervention during the Second World War, and the 1979 revolution. Montefiore depicts Ayatollah Khomeini as a shrewd political operator who forged a coalition before establishing a theocratic system, and he argues that post-2003 Iraq enabled Iran’s regional militia network.

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Triggernometry
Published
22 August 2026
Duration
2h 17m
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01
Military

Montefiore says Turkey has occupied northern Syria since 2016

at 23:34 · Attributed speaker claim
In 2016, um, the Turks occupied a large strip of northern Syria, which they still occupy, and he is now the preeminent power. Erdogan is now the pre-minent power in Syria.

Montefiore says Turkey’s 2016 military move into northern Syria has resulted in an ongoing Turkish-held zone and has left Ankara as a decisive outside actor in Syria’s current balance of power. He also describes Turkey as increasingly active beyond Syria, citing involvement in Libya and Somalia.

02
History

Montefiore claims Palestinian leader Amin al-Husseini “embrace[d]” Nazism in 1930s

at 56:55 · Attributed speaker claim
No he said I Actually, I actually I'm a convert almost to Nazism and I embrace your racial view of the world and um the and I embrace your war on the Jews.

Montefiore alleges that Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, went beyond seeking German support against British rule and expressed ideological alignment with Nazism and antisemitism. He describes this as a turning point that later included close contact with senior Nazi leaders during the Second World War.

03
Geopolitics

Montefiore says much of the 1948 Palestinian exodus happened before Israel’s declaration

at 1:31:48 · Attributed speaker claim
At this stage, no one is being driven out. No one is being driven out. But hundreds of thousands and it's estimated I think something like 300,000 which is half the entire refugee number um of the Nakba is happening now out of fear um of the the coming war or the fact or what the Jews would do when they got control. But they are not being driven out.

Montefiore argues that a large portion of Palestinians who became refugees in 1947–48 left before Israel declared independence and prior to Israeli offensives, saying departures were driven by fear and anticipation of a wider Arab–Israeli war. He cites memoir accounts and points to Mahmoud Abbas’s recollection of leaving Safed as a child as an example.

04
History

Montefiore alleges 1948 Lydda and Ramle expulsions were a war crime

at 1:41:52 · Attributed speaker claim
There are apparently allegedly verbal orders given by Benorium to drive out the Arab populations of Ramler and LA. And this is the notorious um driving out of between of over 40,000 um Palestinian Arabs from their towns in an an unforgivable atrocity which we now call cleansing.

Simon Sebag Montefiore alleges Israeli forces expelled tens of thousands of Palestinians from Lydda and Ramle during the 1948 war, calling it an atrocity and describing it as ethnic cleansing. He says it was driven by strategic concerns and claims the decision was disputed and may have involved alleged verbal orders.

05
Geopolitics

Montefiore claims Saddam offered to assassinate Khomeini; Shah refused

at 1:55:02 · Attributed speaker claim
In 1978, Saddam Hussein, president of Iraq, rang the sha several times and said, "What do you want me to do about um Ayatollani? Can I kill him for you?" He literally made this offer three times. And the sha said, "We don't do that sort of thing."

Montefiore claims Saddam Hussein repeatedly offered to kill Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini while Khomeini was in exile, and that the Shah refused, believing assassination would turn Khomeini into a martyr. He presents the moment as part of a wider pattern of misjudgements by the Shah as the Iranian revolution gathered pace.