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How You Can Train Your Brain To Be Motivated | Dr. Andrew Huberman

On Purpose with Jay Shetty · 8 August 2026 · 1h 0m · 3 Egleze moments
How You Can Train Your Brain To Be Motivated | Dr. Andrew Huberman ▶

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Jay Shetty interviews neuroscientist Dr Andrew Huberman on motivation, learning and attention, with Huberman laying out a two-stage model of neuroplasticity: periods of focused alertness followed by deep rest, particularly sleep and what he calls non-sleep deep rest (NSDR), including yoga nidra and certain meditation or nap practices. He discusses the idea that the brain replays recently learned patterns during rest and points to timing tools such as 90-minute ultradian focus cycles, short “micro-rests” during practice, and using shallow naps/NSDR within hours of intense learning.

Huberman also links sleep architecture to emotional regulation, describing REM sleep as a state in which emotional experiences can be revisited without the same adrenaline-driven bodily arousal, and says depriving REM sleep impairs the ability to reduce negative affect. Much of the episode centres on dopamine: Huberman describes it less as a “pleasure” chemical and more as a motivation and learning signal shaped by reward prediction, warning that large dopamine spikes can be followed by deeper crashes, particularly with addictive behaviours.

On daily habits, he recommends morning outdoor light exposure to anchor circadian rhythms and cites research he says shows short periods of natural light exposure can re-align hormonal timing. The conversation closes with strategies for managing change and stress by deliberately widening and narrowing attention, and by practising methods to “turn off” rumination through relaxation and NSDR.

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On Purpose with Jay Shetty
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8 August 2026
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1h 0m
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Health, Longevity & Biohacking

Huberman says REM sleep acts like ‘trauma therapy’ by removing adrenaline

at 6:47 · Attributed speaker claim
During rapid eye movement sleep, there's an inability to move the body. We call this atonia. It's a literally a a sleep-induced paralysis that's healthy, and a complete failure of the nervous system to release adrenaline, epinephrine. This is sort of like a trauma therapy in some sense.

Huberman describes REM sleep as a period when the body is paralysed (atonia) and, he says, the nervous system does not release adrenaline/epinephrine. He argues this allows emotional events to be replayed in dreams without the same bodily stress chemistry, and adds that REM sleep deprivation has been shown to impair the ability to shed negative emotions from prior days.

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Health, Longevity & Biohacking

Huberman cites University of Colorado camping study resetting body-clock timing in two days

at 16:27 · Attributed speaker claim
What they found is that melatonin rhythms, cortisol rhythms, which can be a healthy thing. We all have cortisol. It protects us, energizes us. Dopamine, epinephrine, all these rhythms of the body could be reinstated to their proper timing by waking up and seeing the sun and going to sleep not too long after sunset, depending on time of year, for 2 nights and 2 mornings. Wow. And this lasted at least 2 weeks, even though people were getting artificial light.

Huberman recommends getting bright outdoor light soon after waking and says evidence supports it for mood, sleep and metabolic health. As an example, he cites a University of Colorado study in which college students camping for two nights and mornings reportedly re-aligned melatonin and cortisol timing, with effects persisting for at least two weeks after returning to artificial light.

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Psychology

Huberman cites brain-stimulation study where people preferred triggering anger and frustration

at 44:41 · Attributed speaker claim
The brain area that people preferred to stimulate the most, this is really going to upset a few people, was the one that led to anger and frustration.

Neuroscientist Dr Andrew Huberman points to research he says was published in Science in the 1960s involving neurosurgical patients who could stimulate different brain areas and report how they felt. He says participants most preferred stimulating a site that produced feelings of anger and frustration, which he interprets as the brain signalling a need to act in response to perceived threat or friction.