Brad Gerstner confirms GLM 5.2 contains Mythos watermarks, evidence of Chinese model distillation
"I will tell you, GLM 5.2 has watermarks from Mythos all over it, right? So we know they were distilling."
About this episode
Jason Calacanis, David Sacks, and Brad Gerstner discuss the explosive growth of frontier AI labs and the historic launch of Trump Accounts, the government investment platform giving every American child an ownership stake in the economy. Chamath Palihapitiya joins briefly before heading to enterprise software sales calls. The episode centers on two major storylines: the unprecedented revenue growth at OpenAI and Anthropic as they prepare for potential IPOs at over $1 trillion valuations, and Brad Gerstner's announcement that Trump Accounts signed up 1.5 million users and received over $1 billion in deposits within 24 hours of its July 4th launch. Gerstner reveals President Trump has ordered automatic account creation for all 70 million American children, while Michael Dell committed over $6 billion and SpaceX's Gwynne Shotwell pledged $350 million to fund accounts for lower-income kids. On the AI front, Gerstner projects Anthropic could reach $100 billion in revenue and grow 3-5x from there, representing $200 billion in single-year revenue growth that would be unprecedented in business history. However, Chamath warns his company's AI token costs are doubling every 45 days while productivity gains remain flat at 5%, questioning the sustainability of enterprise AI spending. CTOs from Uber, DoorDash, and Databricks shared detailed strategies for optimizing AI costs through intelligent model routing and custom harnesses. The discussion also covers China's reported consideration of restricting overseas access to Chinese AI models as a national security measure, with Gerstner confirming Chinese model GLM 5.2 contains watermarks from distilled American models. The besties debate whether frontier model intelligence will converge with open source alternatives or whether the gap will expand as superintelligence becomes recursive.
Key takeaways
- Trump Accounts reached 1.5 million signups and over $1 billion in deposits within 24 hours of July 4th launch, becoming the number one app in America
- President Trump ordered Brad Gerstner to automatically create Trump Accounts for all 50 to 70 million American children under 18 within 90 days
- Michael and Susan Dell pledged over $6 billion to provide $250 to each of 25 million lower and middle-income children through Trump Accounts
- OpenAI is trending toward $70 billion annual revenue while Anthropic is rumored to exceed $100 billion, with both planning IPOs potentially valued over $3 trillion
- Chamath Palihapitiya warns his company's AI token costs are doubling every 45 days while productivity improvements remain flat at only 5 percent
- Brad Gerstner projects frontier AI labs could achieve unprecedented $200 billion single-year revenue increases as they penetrate the largest TAM in history
- China is reportedly considering restricting overseas access to top Chinese AI models amid concerns about U.S. exploitation and national security threats