Discord Users Posted About UVU Attack Day Before Charlie Kirk Shooting
"There were people that were saying, 'Oh, there's going to be a big thing happening at UVU today or tomorrow.' Multiple Twitter posts. There were multiple people from that Discord that were talking about it. There were multiple people that were alluding to something happening at UVU on the day in question."
About this episode
Timcast IRL hosts Tim Pool, Ian Crossland, and guests discuss breaking developments in the Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing for the killing of Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University. The central revelation involves DNA evidence showing that Lance Twigs, Robinson's transgender lover who was not present at the shooting, had DNA on both a towel wrapped around the murder weapon and a screwdriver found at the scene. Utah investigators testified that the DNA mixture was approximately 75% from Robinson and 5% from Twigs, who lived together and has since been granted limited use immunity by federal and Utah County authorities. The hosts also discuss allegations that multiple Discord users posted cryptic messages the day before the attack suggesting foreknowledge of violence at UVU, raising questions about whether Robinson discussed his plans online and whether others encouraged or failed to report the plot. The conversation shifts to broader themes of government distrust, comparing the case to JFK assassination conspiracy theories and discussing how COVID-era government dishonesty has made Americans deeply skeptical of official narratives. The hosts debate the line between justified skepticism and reflexive disbelief of all government statements, noting that narratives often contain partial truths rather than complete fabrications. They also touch on political tribalism surrounding the case, with left-leaning individuals allegedly claiming the Butler Trump assassination attempt was staged while right-leaning observers point to evidence the UVU shooter had leftist motivations. The episode concludes with an extended tangent on vigilante justice, sparked by stories of a motorcycle rider shooting naked bikers with a BB gun and a Mexican Batman figure who duct-tapes thieves to poles.
Key takeaways
- DNA belonging to Lance Twigs, Tyler Robinson's transgender lover, was found on a towel around the murder weapon and screwdriver at the Charlie Kirk shooting scene at Utah Valley University.
- The DNA evidence was approximately 75% Robinson's and 5% Twigs', though Twigs was not present at the shooting and has been granted limited use immunity by prosecutors.
- Multiple Discord users allegedly posted cryptic messages the day before the UVU attack suggesting something significant would happen, raising questions about foreknowledge and potential conspiracy.
- Lance Twigs is serving as a star witness for the prosecution despite his DNA being on evidence directly connected to the murder weapon.
- The hosts argue COVID-era government dishonesty has created widespread justified skepticism of official narratives, though this sometimes leads to reflexive disbelief of all government statements.
- Political tribalism shapes interpretations of violent events, with partisans on both sides pushing narratives that deflect blame from their ideological camps.
- The conversation touches on historical government deception including MK Ultra, CIA drug trafficking, and JFK assassination conspiracy theories as context for contemporary distrust.