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Podcaster Claims Gifted and Talented Program Was CIA Mind Control Experiment

Theo Von · Duncan Trussell | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #667 · July 8, 2026
Podcaster Claims Gifted and Talented Program Was CIA Mind Control Experiment
Theo Von
Theo Von
Duncan Trussell | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von #667
"Did you get the weird headphone test? Do you remember the weird shit they made you drink?... They wanted to find kids who would be great assassins... You were in the GATE program... that is— you can look that up. That— like, no way."
Duncan Trussell and Theo Von discussed memories of the GATE (Gifted and Talented Education) program, claiming it was a CIA psychological operation to identify children with psychic abilities or potential for intelligence work. They recalled mysterious hearing tests, unusual beverages, and separation from peers, suggesting the program was connected to projects like Stargate, which researched remote viewing and psychic espionage.

About this episode

Theo Von hosts comedian and podcaster Duncan Trussell in a wide-ranging, comedically dark conversation that veers from historical absurdity to urgent warnings about Big Tech, AI manipulation, and the occult underpinnings of modern life. Trussell, co-host of the Mystery Boys podcast with Kurt Metzger, shares bizarre guest stories including a caller claiming to be a veteran of a secret space program who described moon prisons, reptilian overlords, and interstellar warfare. The duo dissect the hypocrisy of Silicon Valley elites who shield their own children from social media while monetizing addiction in millions of families, citing Mark Zuckerberg's guarded approach to his kids' screen time and his public endorsement of Roblox—a platform currently under investigation for child exploitation. Trussell argues that algorithms function as modern sorcery, microdosing cultural trauma through events like assassinations to fragment attention and implant propaganda. He draws parallels between medieval demonology and digital manipulation, claiming technology companies knowingly allow predatory behavior to maximize profit. Von and Trussell also explore historical oddities, including the fact that serial killer John Wayne Gacy was executed on a solar eclipse the same day Jeffrey Dahmer was baptized, and revisit conspiracy theories linking the GATE gifted education program to CIA mind control experiments. The conversation balances genuine alarm about child safety, mental health, and surveillance capitalism with absurdist riffs on Italian termites, medieval toilets, hot air balloon sex trafficking, and meth-addicted Buddhist monks. Trussell advocates for mindfulness, compassion, and reclaiming the present moment as antidotes to algorithmic chaos, while Von reflects on his own journey toward self-examination and spiritual boundaries. The episode exemplifies the podcast's signature blend of high-concept paranoia, philosophical inquiry, and irreverent comedy.

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