Jill Biden Says Kamala Harris Loss Shocked Her Despite Trump's TikTok Dominance
"I honestly believed she was going to win. And I was actually shocked. I went into the kitchen at the White House, I was making coffee, feeding Willow, and my phone rang and someone called me and said, 'Did you see the news?' And I knew."
About this episode
On this episode of On Purpose, host Jay Shetty interviewed Dr. Jill Biden, former First Lady, educator, and author, in a deeply personal conversation covering her new book and the Biden family's most difficult moments. The most explosive revelation came when Biden disclosed that President Joe Biden has stage 4 cancer metastasized to his bones and will be on treatment for life. Biden also revealed her genuine shock at Kamala Harris's 2024 election loss, admitting she misjudged the race by focusing on rally crowds rather than social media indicators like TikTok, where Shetty noted Trump's support was overwhelming. The conversation covered the trauma of the 2024 debate, where Biden feared Joe was having a stroke when he froze on stage, and her heartbreak over his political career ending negatively after 50 years of public service. Biden opened up extensively about Hunter Biden's addiction crisis, revealing the family often didn't know his whereabouts for weeks while his daughters desperately asked for him, and disclosed flying in an interventionist only to have Hunter flee immediately. She also discussed the death of Beau Biden from glioblastoma, explaining why she titled her book with the line "once you lose a child, nothing can hurt you," describing how doctors told them he could turn around until the very day he died. Throughout, Biden reflected on her 49-year marriage to Joe, her lifelong teaching career, the importance of women's health research, and her regret about not speaking more openly about Hunter's addiction during their White House years.
Key takeaways
- Jill Biden revealed Joe Biden has stage 4 cancer metastasized to his bones and will require lifelong treatment at age 83.
- Biden admitted shock at Kamala Harris's loss, having misjudged the race by monitoring rally crowds instead of TikTok where Trump dominated.
- During Hunter Biden's addiction crisis, the family often didn't know his location for weeks while his daughters repeatedly asked for their father.
- Biden thought Joe was having a stroke during his 2024 debate freeze and was "scared to death" watching from the green room.
- Biden expressed heartbreak that Joe's 50-year political career ended on a negative note after he lost Democratic Party support and withdrew.
- Doctors told the Bidens that Beau could turn around until the very day he died from glioblastoma at Walter Reed.
- Biden rejected Joe's marriage proposals five times over two years because she needed to be certain the marriage would last for Beau and Hunter's sake.