Former Reagan Official Told Teen Writer Aliens Are Real in 1981 Disclosure
"He goes, listen, I got a new job. I have a higher clearance level than the president. Aliens are real. They're here, and I've seen them. Reality is not what we know."
About this episode
In this explosive episode, host Jesse Michels interviews Dark Skies co-creators Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman about their decades-long entanglement with alleged intelligence operatives and UFO disclosure. The most startling revelation centers on a 1996 incident where a man identifying himself as 'JC' from the Office of Naval Intelligence crashed their NBC premiere party, demonstrating knowledge of unreleased episodes and offering classified UFO access in exchange for narrative control over their show. JC provided them with a cryptic formula he called 'secrets of the universe' involving sound, light, and frequency, instructing them to lock it away for 10-15 years. When the writers declined, they were invited to meet an admiral at a cemetery at midnight—an offer they refused out of safety concerns. Friedman also recounts a 1981 disclosure from John Harrington, who became Reagan's Secretary of Energy, who told him as an 18-year-old that aliens are real after being briefed in underground West Virginia facilities. Harrington said he cried himself to sleep during briefings, warning 'this is not the world I thought I was bringing my daughters into.' Whistleblower David Grusch recently sought Harrington's congressional testimony. The conversation covers alleged Hollywood-intelligence cooperation dating to the 1953 Robertson Panel's recruitment of Walt Disney, Spielberg's rumored ONI deal after Jaws, and heavy-handed interference in Dark Skies production including threats to 'burn your negative' over Men in Black similarities. Zabel and Friedman analyze Spielberg's Disclosure Day as potential soft disclosure, noting Obama's unusual set visit and the film's focus on consciousness-based alien contact. Friedman shares disturbing personal experiences including witnessing six deaths throughout his life, paranormal encounters with entities, a near-death experience during cancer treatment where light beings appeared, and an incident researching the JC formula where he claims to have experienced multiple timelines simultaneously for two hours.
Key takeaways
- A man claiming to be from Office of Naval Intelligence offered Dark Skies creators classified UFO access in exchange for show narrative control and gave them a cryptic 'secrets of the universe' formula in 1996.
- John Harrington, who became Reagan's Secretary of Energy, told 18-year-old Brent Friedman in 1981 that aliens are real after underground briefings left him crying nightly; David Grusch now seeks his congressional testimony.
- Spielberg's production team allegedly threatened to shut down Dark Skies and burn their negative over Men in Black character similarities, later issuing 19 non-negotiable demands including removing autopsy scenes.
- Director Tobe Hooper claimed Spielberg accepted a deal with Naval Intelligence after Jaws for UFO case file access, basing Close Encounters and E.T. on classified information.
- Ross Coulthart categorically stated on-air that the 2004 Nimitz Tic Tac UFO is Lockheed Martin technology, a claim he refused to defend in follow-up interview, ending his co-hosting relationship with Zabel.
- Obama made a rare film set visit to Spielberg's Disclosure Day production while simultaneously making and walking back public 'aliens are real' statements as his former intel chiefs disclosed crash retrievals.
- The 'sound, light, and frequency' formula phrase first appeared publicly in a 2012 CERN white paper on the God particle, 16 years after JC provided it to the writers.