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Trump Says Iranians Are Most Rational Group Yet on Nuclear Negotiations

Ben Shapiro Show · Ep. 2445 - Trump Declares End To War, WTH Is Going On? · June 15, 2026
Trump Says Iranians Are Most Rational Group Yet on Nuclear Negotiations
Ben Shapiro Show
Ben Shapiro Show
Ep. 2445 - Trump Declares End To War, WTH Is Going On?
"As far as regime change, I never cared about regime change. This is the third group we've dealt with. This is the most rational group yet."
President Trump characterized Iran's current leadership as the most rational negotiating partner the U.S. has dealt with on nuclear issues. This represents a significant shift in U.S. posture toward a regime that has been designated the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism and was the target of major U.S. military strikes just months ago.

About this episode

Ben Shapiro analyzed the emerging U.S.-Iran memorandum of understanding announced over the weekend, expressing deep skepticism about the agreement's substance and presentation. The episode focused heavily on the contradictory accounts from both sides: Trump and VP JD Vance claimed a favorable 60-day temporary deal with no cash flowing to Iran and progress toward nuclear disarmament, while Iran publicly stated it secured $24 billion in immediate frozen assets, $300 billion in reconstruction payments, lifting of oil sanctions, and exclusion of ballistic missiles and terrorism from negotiations. Shapiro repeatedly emphasized that without the actual text of the agreement, it's impossible to evaluate whether the deal advances U.S. interests or constitutes a strategic failure. He outlined what good versus bad permanent and temporary deals would look like, arguing a good deal requires Iran to abandon nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, and terrorism funding while permanently opening the Strait of Hormuz. Shapiro expressed particular concern about Trump's harsh criticism of Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu for striking Hezbollah in Beirut hours before the deal announcement, calling Trump's characterization of Iran as the most rational group yet a dangerous signal that undermines U.S. credibility. The episode also covered Trump's announcement of a successful U.S. military strike killing the leader of Tren de Aragua in Venezuela with CIA intelligence and Venezuelan cooperation. Shapiro criticized the planned signing ceremony in Switzerland between JD Vance and Iranian parliamentary leader Mohammad Khaled Bafghar as a photo-op that legitimizes a terror-backing regime. The latter portion addressed cultural commentary on the UFC event at the White House and Democratic outrage over Elon Musk becoming the world's first trillionaire.

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