Apple Reportedly Working on Three Mystery Products Including Never Before Seen Device
"Didn't OpenAI claim that they were going to have 3 products or something? And obviously they've got Jony Ive, the guy that made the iPhone. They said 3 different things and one of them is something that no one's ever seen before."
About this episode
Host Chris Williamson convened with entrepreneur Nirav Tolia, investor George Mack, and author Tim Ferriss for a wide-ranging conversation covering emerging technologies, mental health treatments, and cultural observations. The most striking revelation came from Ferriss, who detailed his extensive experience with transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) for treating severe anxiety, describing how accelerated protocols reduced his symptoms from debilitating to minimal in days, though at costs exceeding $30,000 and with unexpected side effects including temporary sexual dysfunction. Ferriss disclosed he's now investing in TMS companies and supporting research at UT Austin, predicting the technology will displace many psychiatric medications within years. The group examined controversial statistics showing the UK arrested over 12,000 people for social media posts in 2023, nearly double second-place Belarus and far exceeding authoritarian states like Russia and China, sparking debate about Western civil liberties. Tolia discussed the emerging AI looksmaxing trend where users upload photos to ChatGPT or Gemini for personalized cosmetic surgery and aesthetic improvement recommendations. The conversation explored whether technology removes meaning from life, with Ferriss arguing that social media and digital devices create a form of digital poison many consume daily, while Mack countered with techno-optimistic views about AI solving problems we can't yet forecast. Other topics included language learning, visual memory training, the terminal velocity of cats, Winston Churchill's near-death experiences, dating app monopolies, brain stimulation for migraines, and speculation about Apple's secretive collaboration with Jony Ive on three mysterious products including one in a never-before-seen category. The episode balanced serious discussion of mental health innovation with humor and personal anecdotes, reflecting the hosts' chemistry and diverse expertise.
Key takeaways
- Ferriss revealed TMS treatment reduced his severe anxiety from 9 to 1 out of 10 in days, though initial rounds cost over $30,000 and caused temporary inability to ejaculate.
- UK arrested 12,183 people for social media posts in 2023, nearly double Belarus and vastly exceeding Russia and China according to Times and Freedom House data.
- Tolia described AI looksmaxing trend where people use ChatGPT and Gemini to analyze faces and receive recommendations for cosmetic procedures and aesthetic improvements.
- Ferriss reported 30% heart rate variability increase lasting months after stellate ganglion block procedure, a nerve injection used to reset the nervous system.
- OpenAI reportedly developing three products with Jony Ive including one mystery device in never-before-seen category, possibly replacing smartphone app ecosystem.
- Group debated whether AI and technology remove meaning from life, with Ferriss warning of digital poison while Mack argued problems generate their own solutions.
- Match Group owns nearly all major dating apps creating monopoly on modern dating comparable to MindGeek's pornography dominance that goes unexamined.