Hosts recount ephedra ‘speed stack’ era, saying misuse preceded reported deaths

What was said

""I just want people to understand this, everybody. This was drugs.""

In a wide-ranging aside on old-school supplements, the Mind Pump hosts describe ephedra-and-caffeine “stacks” and energy products once common in gyms, framing them as effectively drug-like stimulants. They say ephedra was later pulled from many products after incidents including a baseball player’s reported death, and discuss how serving sizes were often misunderstood.