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Mandia says defenders may need self-propagating AI attackers to keep pace

By Egleze Editorial Desk · Published August 8, 2026 · Shawn Ryan Show · Cybersecurity Expert Reveals America's Terrifying AI Arms Race
Mandia says defenders may need self-propagating AI attackers to keep pace
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Cybersecurity Expert Reveals America's Terrifying AI Arms Race

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"At Arm we want to get our AI attacker to be so good it's building its next AI attacker. They self-propagate. We and the unfortunate reality is we have to build it or the adversary will."

Kevin Mandia argues that cyber defence will require building offensive AI systems capable of iterating on themselves, describing a goal of creating an “AI attacker” that can build its “next AI attacker”. He frames this as a necessary response to an AI-driven escalation in cyber operations, contending that if Western firms and governments do not develop such capability, adversaries will.

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