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Ian Gardner alleges dark retreats trigger pineal DMT after three days

By Egleze Editorial Desk · Published August 4, 2026 · Third Wave Podcast · Inside the World of Dark Retreats | Ian Gardner
Ian Gardner alleges dark retreats trigger pineal DMT after three days
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Inside the World of Dark Retreats | Ian Gardner

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""And then on day three or four depending on how your biochemistry works and this is the interesting analog to the psychedelic experience. Your pineal gland starts to produce DMT indogenous.""

Ian Gardner alleges that by the third or fourth day of a dark retreat, the pineal gland starts producing endogenous DMT. He argues this makes “inner worlds” more accessible in a way he likens to psychedelic experiences, but offers no evidence for the biological mechanism.

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Inside the World of Dark Retreats | Ian Gardner
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