Gill presses ABA president on ‘implicit bias’ claim; witness avoids specifics
"Quote, all of us have implicit biases. Would you agree with that statement? The ABA believes that diversity, equity, and inclusion improves the practice. Would you agree with the statement that, quote, all of us have implicit biases from the ABA's website?"
About this episode
Megyn Kelly and a guest discuss Rep Brandon Gill’s questioning of witnesses at two House hearings, focusing first on a Smithsonian official and then on the president of the American Bar Association (ABA). The programme plays extended clips of Gill challenging the Smithsonian official about a “mass action toolkit” he says the institution promoted, including passages that describe “objectivity” and “politeness” as aspects of “white supremacy culture”. Gill also cites a Smithsonian exhibit description that links Mickey Mouse to “blackface minstrecy”, prompting a back-and-forth over whether the character’s origins are “rooted in racism”. Kelly and her guest argue the witness was evasive and contend the Smithsonian has become overly ideological.
In the second segment, the show turns to the ABA, which Kelly describes as politically “captured” and unrepresentative of most lawyers. A clip shows Gill pressing the ABA president about the statement “all of us have implicit biases”, repeatedly demanding a direct answer and asking which groups the witness is biased against; the witness responds by referring broadly to the organisation’s work and says she is speaking for the ABA. Kelly and her guest dispute the usefulness of implicit-bias programmes and make claims about social-science findings, without providing citations in the clip.
The episode includes a mid-roll advertisement for Birch Gold Group and closes with a subscription call-to-action.
Key takeaways
- The show plays a House hearing clip of Brandon Gill challenging a Smithsonian official over a “mass action toolkit” he says the institution promoted.
- Gill cites language in the material that labels “objectivity” and “politeness” as traits of “white supremacy culture”.
- Gill references a Smithsonian exhibit description linking Mickey Mouse to “blackface minstrecy” and asks if the character is “racist”.
- Kelly and her guest argue the Smithsonian’s leadership is overly ideological and should face consequences, framing the exchange as evidence.
- A second hearing clip shows Gill questioning the ABA president about the claim that “all of us have implicit biases” on the ABA website.
- Kelly and her guest criticise implicit-bias training and make uncited claims about research outcomes.
- The episode contains a Birch Gold Group advert and ends with a subscription request.