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‘I’m NOT Hiding ANYTHING!’ Egyptologist Zahi Hawass Grilled On Pyramids By Experts

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‘I’m NOT Hiding ANYTHING!’ Egyptologist Zahi Hawass Grilled On Pyramids By Experts
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Piers Morgan hosted Dr. Zahi Hawass, the world's preeminent authority on Egypt's pyramids, for an extended debate confronting alternative archaeology theories and addressing accusations that he operates as a gatekeeper suppressing discoveries. Hawass announced that in June 2025, his team will investigate a sealed corridor and 30-meter void within the Great Pyramid of Khufu using advanced ultrasound technology, which he believes may lead to discovering Khufu's actual burial chamber—a find he called potentially the most important archaeological discovery on Earth. The episode featured heated exchanges between Hawass and three alternative researchers: Michael Button, Jimmy Corsetti, and Timothy Alberino. They challenged mainstream Egyptology on multiple fronts, including claims of a subterranean city beneath Giza detected by Italian scientists, water erosion evidence suggesting the Sphinx dates to 7,000 BC, and unexplored chambers beneath the Sphinx's paw. Hawass categorically denied hiding evidence, stating all discoveries are published in scientific journals and his 1,000-page book on Giza. In a surprising turn, he agreed to collaborate with independent researchers using drone-mounted ground-penetrating radar to scan the Pyramid of Khafre. Hawass also revealed that Cleopatra's tomb will never be recovered because it lies underwater in the Mediterranean, dismissing 20 years of search efforts. The conversation expanded to cover the new $2 billion Grand Egyptian Museum, which displays over 5,000 Tutankhamun artifacts and attracts 15,000 daily visitors. Hawass defended traditional Egyptian archaeology while acknowledging some mysteries remain unsolved, insisting the pyramids were definitively built by ancient Egyptians, supported by the 2017 discovery of the Wadi el-Jarf papyri—a diary from a pyramid construction overseer. The episode concluded with Morgan securing Hawass's invitation for a future Egypt expedition including Graham Hancock and Robbie Williams.

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Hawass Declares Cleopatra's Tomb Will Never Be Discovered, Located Underwater

Egypt's leading archaeologist definitively stated that Cleopatra's tomb, located beneath the Mediterranean Sea near her palace, cannot be recovered despite 20 years of searching with diving expeditions. Hawass explained that while they worked with Bill Ballard, who discovered the Titanic, the tomb remains inaccessible underwater. He positioned this as less significant than potential Khufu discoveries, contradicting public perception of Cleopatra's fame.

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Hawass Opens Door to Independent Radar Scan of Pyramid After Underground City Claims

In a significant policy shift, Hawass agreed to collaborate with independent researcher Timothy Alberino to conduct ground-penetrating radar scans of the Pyramid of Khafre using drone-mounted equipment that can penetrate 300 feet through solid rock. This follows Italian researchers' claims of discovering signs of a vast subterranean citadel beneath Giza. The agreement represents rare openness from Hawass, who has been accused of gatekeeping, though he emphasized security protocols and approval processes would apply.

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History

Great Pyramid Void Remains Unexplored 10 Years After 2017 Discovery

Despite the formal publication of scan results in 2017 showing a massive void within the Great Pyramid, researchers have still not accessed the chamber as of 2025. Hawass acknowledged that multiple international teams from England, France, and Japan are struggling to develop technology capable of investigating the void without damaging the structure. Alternative researchers expressed frustration at the decade-long delay, with some questioning transparency around the discovery.

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Alternative Researchers Claim Water Erosion Proves Sphinx Thousands of Years Older

Jimmy Corsetti presented controversial claims that water erosion patterns on the Sphinx enclosure indicate construction dating to at least 7,000 BC, several millennia before mainstream Egyptology dates the monument. He argued the scientific evidence of water versus wind erosion is tangible and contradicts the accepted timeline, suggesting the Sphinx predates dynastic Egypt. Hawass rejected these claims, though the debate highlights ongoing tension between traditional and alternative archaeological interpretations.

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History

Hawass Claims Khufu's Real Burial Chamber Still Hidden Inside Great Pyramid

Dr. Zahi Hawass revealed that he believes the actual burial chamber of Pharaoh Khufu remains undiscovered within the Great Pyramid, connected to a recently detected 30-meter corridor and sealed door. He announced that in June 2025, an English team will use ultrasound technology to investigate the void without drilling. Hawass stated this discovery would be among the three most important archaeological finds possible, alongside Nefertiti's tomb and Imhotep's tomb.

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