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"Predicting Crime" Inside DARPA's Most Disturbing New Tech | Sharon Weinberger

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"Predicting Crime" Inside DARPA's Most Disturbing New Tech | Sharon Weinberger ▶

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Sharon Weinberger joins the Danny Jones Podcast to discuss her reporting on US defence innovation and the growing role of Silicon Valley capital in warfare. She recounts early encounters with Pentagon-funded projects she characterises as scientifically dubious, including a “hafnium bomb” concept she says was treated as destabilising pseudoscience. Weinberger also describes efforts to force disclosure through Freedom of Information Act litigation, including a current case seeking records on classified microwave weapons research she says used code names “Hello”, “Goodbye” and “Good Night”.

A central portion of the interview focuses on privatisation: Weinberger argues the Pentagon is increasingly dependent on technologies controlled by private firms, citing Elon Musk’s role in space launch and satellite communications as an example. She alleges that a Pentagon-commissioned 2013 study examined whether a wealthy private actor could secretly build and sell nuclear weapons profitably. She also describes an alleged Pentagon break with Anthropic after the company questioned how its models were used when deployed through Palantir systems.

Weinberger further claims that a CIA contract for tens of thousands of NeXT computers helped keep Steve Jobs’s company afloat, enabling the technology pathway that later fed into Apple’s modern operating system. Elsewhere, she revisits post‑9/11 secrecy, saying the US Army convened screenwriters to imagine terrorism scenarios while withholding records from FOIA release. The conversation also touches on European arms shows, Ukraine’s drone industry, and her view that nuclear weapons remain the most immediate civilisation-ending risk compared with speculative AI catastrophe claims.

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Military

Weinberger says DARPA backed hafnium bomb idea dismissed as pseudoscience

Sharon Weinberger · at 4:45 · Attributed speaker claim
He said it's it's dangerous because it's destabilizing the arms race, but it's also pseudocience. It's based on some guy at Texas who did an experiment with a used dental X-ray machine. And I just I had to get to the bottom of it.

Sharon Weinberger alleges she was told DARPA funded research into a hafnium-isomer explosive concept. She says a nuclear physicist warned it could destabilise arms-race dynamics and described the underlying science as flawed.

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Military

Weinberger says FOIA suit seeks Pentagon records on microwave weapons codenames

Sharon Weinberger · at 42:54 · Attributed speaker claim
They acknowledged that the code names existed. They're hello, goodbye, and good night. And these were classified weapons programs uh run during the Cold War, possibly after.

Sharon Weinberger says she has an active Freedom of Information Act lawsuit seeking Pentagon records on alleged classified microwave-weapons research. She says officials acknowledged the codenames “Hello”, “Goodbye” and “Good Night”, and she describes what she was told each referred to, adding she does not know how far some work progressed.

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AI & Tech

Weinberger alleges CIA contract bought tens of thousands of NeXT computers

Sharon Weinberger · at 1:44:52 · Attributed speaker claim
He's like, "Yeah, yeah, I worked on that contract." He's like, "But it wasn't really the National Security Agency. That was just the cover story for the CIA contract."

Journalist Sharon Weinberger alleges a federal contract helped keep Steve Jobs’s NeXT afloat. She says a LinkedIn contact told her an apparent NSA purchase was a cover for a CIA deal, and a former senior CIA official later claimed the agency bought “tens of thousands” of NeXT workstations for “Program B”.

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Geopolitics

Weinberger says Pentagon study tested whether a billionaire could build nukes

Sharon Weinberger · at 2:05:55 · Attributed speaker claim
The other was a secret um a uh a study that the Pentagon commissioned in 2013 to see if a rogue billionaire could build and sell nuclear weapons for a profit. Like, could they technically do it secretly? And then could they make a profit doing it?

Sharon Weinberger says the Pentagon commissioned a 2013 study on whether a wealthy private actor could secretly build and sell nuclear weapons for profit. She says she obtained the study and that it concluded the task could be done for about a billion dollars in five years. Weinberger says people involved described the scenario as involving an “Elon Musk type”, cartel figures, or other well-resourced non-state actors.

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Geopolitics

Weinberger alleges Israeli defence firms incorporate in US to boost sales

Sharon Weinberger · at 2:20:38 · Attributed speaker claim
A lot of what's happening is Israeli companies are incorporating in the United States to sort of shed their Israeli identity in part because they want to sell to the Pentagon and the Pentagon doesn't like to buy from foreign buyers as much Israeli or not. And the other is because they don't you know there are you know European comp countries they they don't want to be identified anymore as Israeli because of the backlash against Israel.

Sharon Weinberger alleges some Israeli defence companies are incorporating in the United States to make Pentagon procurement easier and reduce backlash in parts of Europe. She also says French restrictions at the Paris Air Show were political signalling that did not alter commercial realities.