Reality Check with Ross Coulthart
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Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check

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Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check
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Host Ross Coulthart interviewed Jonathan Kaplan KC, a senior British barrister with over 50 years' experience in high-profile fraud and intelligence cases, about his newly published book on UFOs and the Majestic 12 documents. Kaplan, who served on the editorial board of Flying Saucer Review and personally delivered copies to Prince Philip's equerry at Buckingham Palace, applied his forensic legal skills to authenticate leaked government UFO documents. The conversation centered on previously undisclosed Majestic 12 documents retrieved from the late Timothy Cooper's archive, including a July 1949 Blair House meeting memo showing Truman and Eisenhower discussing atomic weapons production for potential space war against alien craft, and a 1953 CIA letter ordering secrecy around an alleged alien contact meeting at Holloman Air Force Base. Kaplan presented evidence he believes links the JFK assassination directly to Kennedy's intention to disclose UFO secrets, citing CIA contractor Frank Sturgis's alleged confession to NYPD detective Jim Rothstein that he was a grassy knoll gunman, and Howard Hunt's deathbed statement that Kennedy was killed 'because he was about to reveal the alien presence.' Kaplan authenticated documents through corroboration with presidential diaries, Atomic Energy Commission records, and contemporary sources unavailable when documents first surfaced in the 1980s. He disclosed Prince Philip's active UFO interest and Sir Peter Townsley's witness interviews at Buckingham Palace, including Townsley's account of meeting a mind-reading being seeking introduction to the Duke. Kaplan expressed skepticism about imminent disclosure under Trump, arguing intelligence agencies will never admit to murders, crashed craft retrievals, or contact with non-human intelligence, settling instead for acknowledging anomalous phenomena only.

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UFO & Paranormal

New Majestic 12 Documents Reveal 1949 White House Meeting on Alien Threat

Kaplan disclosed previously unseen Majestic 12 documents retrieved from Tim Cooper's archive showing a July 1949 Blair House meeting where Truman and Eisenhower discussed increasing atomic weapons production for potential war in space against alien craft. The documents, corroborated by Atomic Energy Commission chairman David Lilienthal's diary at Princeton, detail Air Force planes being shot down by UAPs and recommend less hostile approaches to the craft. Kaplan verified the meeting through multiple independent diary sources unavailable when the documents first surfaced in the 1980s.

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UFO & Paranormal

Senior British Barrister Claims CIA Murdered JFK Over UFO Disclosure Plans

Jonathan Kaplan KC, a top-tier British barrister with over 50 years' experience, stated he believes CIA contractor Frank Sturgis confessed to NYPD detective Jim Rothstein that he was a gunman on the grassy knoll in the JFK assassination. Kaplan cited Howard Hunt's deathbed claim to his lawyer Douglas Caddy that Kennedy was killed 'because he was about to reveal the alien presence.' Kaplan connected this to a leaked Majestic 12 document suggesting MJ-12 members authorized Kennedy's assassination because his inquiries into UFOs threatened the group's continuance.

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UFO & Paranormal

Barrister Claims Prince Philip Received UFO Intelligence Reports at Buckingham Palace

Kaplan revealed he personally delivered copies of Flying Saucer Review to Prince Philip's equerry at Buckingham Palace for over 50 years. He stated Sir Peter Townsley interviewed UFO witnesses at the palace and provided reports to Prince Philip. Kaplan also disclosed rumors that a craft landed on Lord Mountbatten's estate witnessed by staff, and that Townsley met with a being called 'Mr. Janus' who could read minds and claimed to be extraterrestrial, seeking a meeting with Prince Philip.

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UFO & Paranormal

Forrestal Met British Defense Officials Week After Majestic 12 Directive in 1947

Kaplan disclosed that Defense Secretary James Forrestal met with UK Chief Scientific Advisor Sir Henry Tizard within one week of the September 24, 1947 Truman directive establishing Majestic 12. Following the lunch with Forrestal and Vannevar Bush on October 1, 1947, Tizard returned to the UK and established a secret Flying Saucer Working Party in the Ministry of Defense. Kaplan verified these meetings through multiple contemporaneous diaries and UK Ministry documents stating only one copy of the report would be produced and sent to Tizard following 'the American lead' on secrecy.

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