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Whistleblowers Allege CIA Uses Venezuelan Election Software to Manipulate Foreign Elections Worldwide

Danny Jones Podcast · #395 - “I Watched Them Rig Elections In Real Time” Venezuelan Spy Breaks Silence | Ralph Pezzullo · May 11, 2026
Whistleblowers Allege CIA Uses Venezuelan Election Software to Manipulate Foreign Elections Worldwide
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#395 - “I Watched Them Rig Elections In Real Time” Venezuelan Spy Breaks Silence | Ralph Pezzullo
"Our intelligence services started to use this software. We don't know if they're still using it, but they are involved in this. So they were using it to determine the results of elections in other countries."
Two government whistleblowers claim the CIA adopted Venezuelan-developed election manipulation software to control outcomes in foreign nations through a USAID program called CEPSS. They allege US taxpayer money funded the promotion of this technology to 72 countries worldwide, creating a conflict within the Trump administration between exposing domestic election fraud and protecting covert intelligence operations abroad.

About this episode

On this episode, host Danny Jones interviews Ralph Pezullo, a bestselling author and screenwriter, about explosive allegations detailed in his self-published book 'Stolen Elections: The Takedown of Democracies Worldwide.' The conversation centers on claims by two government whistleblowers—former CIA officer Gary Bernsen and former DEA agent Martin Rodeal—that Venezuela's Cartel de los Soles, working with China, Iran, Cuba, and Russia, developed electronic voting software in 2004 to manipulate elections globally, including in the United States. Pezullo explains that Smartmatic and Dominion voting systems allegedly contain 14 backdoors enabling vote manipulation, with the source code stored in Venezuela's national bank. The whistleblowers reportedly recruited 20 engineers from within the conspiracy who provided detailed technical evidence, which was presented to Congress, the FBI, and the Trump administration—all of whom declined to act. Pezullo reveals his original publisher, Skyhorse, canceled the book days before release despite initial enthusiasm, forcing him to self-publish. He also alleges Fox News rejected whistleblower evidence that could have defeated Dominion's $787 million defamation lawsuit, suggesting the settlement was designed to silence media coverage. The episode explores connections between the Cartel de los Soles, Mexican drug cartels, and alleged funding of US political organizations, as well as testimony from Hugo Carvajal, Chávez's former intelligence chief now imprisoned in Brooklyn, who claims Iran installed missile bases in Venezuela aimed at Florida. Pezullo argues a faction within the CIA has used this technology to manipulate foreign elections and is blocking Trump from exposing the system to protect covert operations. The conversation concludes with discussion of the 2024 Los Angeles mayoral race and allegations of irregularities in the 2020 Karen Bass election.

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