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Voice AI agents outperform humans in debt collection by removing shame

All-In Podcast · The Trillion-Dollar Industries AI Is Disrupting: Voice, Law & the End of the Billable Hour · July 14, 2026
Voice AI agents outperform humans in debt collection by removing shame
All-In Podcast
All-In Podcast
The Trillion-Dollar Industries AI Is Disrupting: Voice, Law & the End of the Billable Hour
"Some of the frequent case is how you remind people about payment or collect debt from people that aren't answering. Frequently people would naturally feel ashamed of telling the real situation. With AI people are much more open to share what actually happened, give the information. And suddenly this emotional block of like in front of other human I don't want to be able to say all of that is very different."
11Labs is working with major financial services companies including Revolut, Klarna, and Pag Bank on AI voice agents for payment collection. The CEO revealed that customers are significantly more willing to disclose their actual financial situations to AI agents than to human collectors because they don't experience shame or social embarrassment. This behavioral shift is enabling better outcomes in debt collection and customer service interactions.

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In a revealing conversation at an industry event, 11Labs CEO Mati Staniszewski disclosed that his three-year-old voice AI company has reached $600 million in annual recurring revenue, marking one of the fastest enterprise software growth trajectories on record. The company, which launched its human-sounding text-to-speech model in early 2023, accelerated from $100M ARR in 20 months to $600M today, now employing 600 people. Staniszewski revealed the company operates without any product managers, instead embedding engineers across all departments to drive automation and ensure secure AI adoption. He also disclosed that 11Labs has paid over $22 million to voice actors through its marketplace, where creators can license their voices for AI generation. In financial services applications, the CEO noted that customers are significantly more willing to disclose personal financial difficulties to AI agents than humans due to reduced shame and social embarrassment. The conversation also featured Max, CEO of legal AI platform Legora, who revealed his company has sustained 50% quarter-over-quarter growth for seven straight quarters, recently becoming one of the fastest enterprise companies to scale from $1M to $150M ARR. Max explained that the trillion-dollar legal services industry is 96% manual services and only 4% software, creating massive opportunity for AI disruption. He shared that Legora conducts M&A diligence in-house using its own tools, completing transactions in as little as 12 days from LOI to close. Both executives discussed competition from frontier AI labs, with Staniszewski noting 11Labs continues to outcompete OpenAI and Anthropic on voice-specific models through architectural innovation and specialized data labeling. Max argued that fine-tuning general models is wasteful, favoring narrow models for specific high-volume use cases while leaving general intelligence to the frontier labs.

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