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JD Vance Says Vatican Immigration Stance Troubling But Values Debate With Church

Reality Check with Ross Coulthart · Catholic values shape Gen Z's political views | On Balance · July 7, 2026
JD Vance Says Vatican Immigration Stance Troubling But Values Debate With Church
Reality Check with Ross Coulthart
Reality Check with Ross Coulthart
Catholic values shape Gen Z's political views | On Balance
"I do think that some of the things that come out of the Vatican on the immigration question in particular have been troubling. It ultimately I disagree with it, but I actually like this interplay, Laura, between the Pope between Christian clergy and between the administration."
Vice President JD Vance publicly stated his disagreement with Vatican positions on immigration while promoting his new book about his Catholic conversion. He framed the tension as healthy debate rather than conflict, noting that Catholics and church leaders don't always have to agree on policy issues. This represents a significant moment of a sitting VP openly challenging the Pope's stance while simultaneously identifying as a devout Catholic.

About this episode

This episode examines the growing political influence of Catholic voters and leaders in American conservatism, focusing on Vice President JD Vance's new book about his Catholic conversion and its strategic timing ahead of a potential 2028 presidential run. Host Leland Vittert speaks with Monsignor Gerard Sauer of Our Lady of Lourdes in Massapequa Park, New York, about the Republican Party's historic gains among Catholics in the 2024 election. The discussion explores how Catholics have shifted away from the Democratic Party over issues like abortion, immigration, and assisted suicide, with many traditional Democratic voters saying the party has abandoned them rather than the reverse. Vance's public disagreement with Vatican immigration policy while embracing his Catholic identity represents a new model of how Catholic politicians navigate tensions between faith and governance. The episode also highlights demographic shifts, noting that six of nine Supreme Court justices are Catholic, over a third of Trump's cabinet identifies as Catholic, and Generation Z is embracing traditional Catholic values rejected by millennials. Monsignor Sauer confirms from his parish experience that young people are returning to the Church seeking meaning beyond what secular culture promised, while older Catholics feel more aligned with conservative positions on borders, life issues, and traditional values than with contemporary Democratic platforms.

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