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President Reagan Told Elite Operator: I Didn't Know We Had People That Did This

Jocko Podcast · SOGCast 051: RT Idaho's John Trantanella on 2nd SOG Combat HALO Jump Into Laos. · July 2, 2026
President Reagan Told Elite Operator: I Didn't Know We Had People That Did This
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SOGCast 051: RT Idaho's John Trantanella on 2nd SOG Combat HALO Jump Into Laos.
"I had to brief the chief of staff of the army and the navy and President Reagan. They had the mission things from the Korean government with all the stuff that how far we jumped and all that. Reagan came, shook my hand and said I just didn't know we had people that did this stuff. I said I know. Because we were told if something happens, you know, it's plausible deniability. The only proof that I have it was on my OER and EER."
During a 1985 Hawaii briefing on his classified Korean CIA training mission, Trantanella personally briefed President Reagan, who expressed surprise at the existence of such covert capabilities. The operations were conducted under strict plausible deniability protocols, with the only official record appearing in his military evaluation reports. This moment revealed the compartmentalization between even presidential knowledge and deep special operations activities.

About this episode

John Striker Meyer interviews John Trantanella, a decorated Special Forces operator who participated in the second of only five combat HALO jumps conducted during SOG operations in Vietnam. Trantanella recounts the harrowing May 7, 1971 mission into Laos near the A Shau Valley where team member No Gas was catastrophically injured when toe poppers in his rucksack exploded upon landing, destroying half his buttocks. Trantanella saved Gas by rigging himself underneath as a human stretcher during helicopter extraction. The interview reveals Trantanella's unconventional entry into military service when his Pawnee-Chippewa grandmother had police handcuff the 18-year-old gang member and force him to enlist. His 22-year career included training Indonesian forces after they expelled Soviet advisors, classified missions training Korean CIA operatives using unmarked black aircraft for deniable infiltrations, and personally briefing President Reagan who expressed surprise that such covert capabilities existed. Trantanella accumulated approximately 2,900 freefall jumps and trained elite operators from multiple nations including the current King of Thailand. He describes technical innovations in HALO operations, near-fatal parachute malfunctions, and the extreme compartmentalization of Cold War special operations. The interview provides rare insight into SOG's most elite missions and the subsequent covert training programs that extended American special operations influence across Asia during the Cold War era.

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