Researcher Claims Current Quantum Computing Approach Fundamentally Flawed Compared to Plant Photosynthesis
"A leaf is using essentially quantum computing to do photosynthesis at room temperature. It's keeping these chemicals in superposition. When we go and invest all this money in supercooling systems, we're doing something wrong. Like, a leaf can do it outside in the sun and does it all the time."
About this episode
Joe Rogan sat down with cognitive neuroscientist Julia Mossbridge for a wide-ranging conversation exploring precognition, telepathy, quantum physics, and alleged government experiments on gifted children. Mossbridge, who holds a PhD and conducted research at Northwestern and UCSF, presented evidence from peer-reviewed studies showing humans can physiologically respond to future events before they occur, with men showing stronger anticipatory responses to winning than women. The most compelling segment focused on non-speaking autistic individuals demonstrating apparent telepathic abilities in controlled experiments, including one student who accurately described specific content from Mossbridge's undisclosed dream and another who phonetically spelled a term he could only have heard in her thoughts. Mossbridge made explosive claims about her childhood participation in 1980s gifted programs, alleging she and other children were given amnesiac drinks and subjected to memory suppression without parental consent, possibly related to intergenerational radiation exposure research. She connected these programs to uranium facilities and noted they avoided children of intelligence community executives in the DC area. The conversation explored quantum computing, with Mossbridge arguing current approaches are fundamentally flawed because nature already demonstrates room-temperature quantum computation through photosynthesis. She described photons as potentially bridging mind and matter, proposing that retrocausality rather than many-worlds theory better explains quantum phenomena. Throughout, Rogan and Mossbridge discussed the cultural suppression of paranormal research in academia, the nature of consciousness and time, and whether UFOs might represent future humans accessing past timelines through retrocausal principles.
Key takeaways
- Mossbridge alleged 1980s gifted programs gave children amnesiac drinks without parental consent, causing consistent memory blackouts she and other students still cannot explain.
- Non-speaking autistic student accurately described a revolving orb from Mossbridge's undisclosed dream and phonetically spelled three-eye atlas after hearing it only in her thoughts.
- Federal recruiter contacted Mossbridge four days after she filed FOIA request about gifted programs, then advanced her clearance three minutes after she withdrew the request.
- Mossbridge's research shows humans physiologically respond to future random events before they occur, with men showing stronger anticipatory responses to winning than women.
- Quantum computing industry is fundamentally flawed because leaves perform quantum computation at room temperature while companies invest billions in supercooling systems.
- Stroke patients with lesions in left frontal orbital cortex showed statistically significant ability to move computer cursor with intention via random number generator.
- All participants in Mossbridge's gifted program support group had parents working for federal government or public schools, suggesting coordinated talent identification program.