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Gaethje Claims Body Shot That Dropped Him Actually Won Him the Fight

Joe Rogan Experience · JRE MMA Show #181 with Justin Gaethje & Trevor Wittman · June 20, 2026
Gaethje Claims Body Shot That Dropped Him Actually Won Him the Fight
Joe Rogan Experience
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JRE MMA Show #181 with Justin Gaethje & Trevor Wittman
"Him hurting my body was the reason, one of the main reasons I won. You know, when he hit me, when I dropped, it wasn't the first time he hit me in the body. That was probably like the 4th or 5th one, and he had landed some really clean shots, and he could probably sense that I was in trouble and hurt. And I think that fact made him dump everything because it was his last chance to take me out."
In a counterintuitive analysis, Gaethje revealed the devastating body shot that floored him in round two was actually a strategic turning point. He explained that Topuria's decision to go all-out after hurting him caused the champion to completely exhaust his gas tank in a two-minute sprint, leaving him depleted for the remainder of the fight. This insight challenges conventional fight analysis.

About this episode

On this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, host Joe Rogan sat down with newly crowned UFC lightweight champion Justin Gaethje and his head coach Trevor Wittman just days after Gaethje's historic title victory over Ilia Topuria at the White House. The conversation opened with Rogan calling the event perhaps the greatest in combat sports history, with Gaethje pulling off a masterful upset as a 6-to-1 underdog in front of President Trump and the military. Gaethje made explosive claims about the fight itself, arguing that Topuria wanted out when he complained about eye damage and that the body shot that dropped him actually won him the fight by causing Topuria to blow his gas tank. The discussion shifted to Gaethje's mental preparation, with both fighter and coach revealing he was psychologically unprepared for his knockout loss to Max Holloway because he couldn't find anything to fear. Gaethje disclosed for the first time that he struggled with drug addiction and nearly died in 2016, crediting his parents' example for pulling him back. Wittman showcased his revolutionary MMA glove design, which both men argued is vastly superior to current UFC equipment, with renewed hope the promotion will finally adopt it. The episode covered Gaethje's wrestling background as foundational to his mental toughness, his refusal to drink water during training, the oppressive humidity at the outdoor White House venue, and his uncertain future in the sport. Gaethje emphasized he deserves compensation for his legacy rather than just future fights, having delivered on the three biggest UFC stages. The conversation closed with hunting stories and Gaethje refusing a million-dollar truck offer from a fighter who bet on him.

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