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Maxwell Claims Most Companies Microwave Leaders Creating Pop-Tart Leaders Industry Wide

Ed Mylett Show · John Maxwell's #3 Law of Leadership: The Law of Process · June 18, 2026
Maxwell Claims Most Companies Microwave Leaders Creating Pop-Tart Leaders Industry Wide
Ed Mylett Show
Ed Mylett Show
John Maxwell's #3 Law of Leadership: The Law of Process
"Because we microwave so many leaders, that's why we have so many Pop-Tart leaders running. You got a lot of Pop-Tart people in your company. It's because you've been microwaving. We need to quit microwaving leaders and we need to start crock-potting leaders."
Leadership expert John Maxwell criticized corporate America's approach to leadership development, using vivid metaphor to describe rushed training programs. Speaking on the Ed Mylett Show, he argued companies try to fast-track leaders through quick events rather than sustained development processes, resulting in superficial leadership skills that don't last. He advocated for slow, methodical leadership cultivation.

About this episode

On this episode of the Ed Mylett Show, host Ed Mylett continued his series on John Maxwell's 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership, focusing on the Law of Process, which states that leadership develops daily, not in a day. Mylett opened by criticizing social media culture for creating unrealistic expectations of overnight success, particularly among young people who see constant streams of supposed millionaires on their phones. He drew on a personal story about his father's journey to sobriety, describing how his dad committed to staying sober one day at a time rather than attempting permanent transformation in a single moment, ultimately succeeding for the rest of his life. Maxwell's teaching formed the core of the episode, where he attacked the myth that leaders are simply born with innate ability. While acknowledging some people have natural leadership leanings, Maxwell insisted anyone can learn to lead through sustained process and daily growth. He introduced the critical distinction between events and process: events encourage decisions and motivate people temporarily, while process develops and matures leaders over time. Maxwell used particularly vivid language to critique corporate training approaches, claiming companies 'microwave' leaders through quick seminars and workshops, producing what he called 'Pop-Tart leaders' who lack depth and staying power. He advocated instead for 'crock-potting' leaders through slow, sustained development. The episode emphasized that leadership encompasses at least seven core facets including influence, navigation, empowerment, relationships, timing, momentum, sacrifice, and attitude, making it impossible to master quickly. Mylett closed by urging listeners to choose one daily leadership habit to practice consistently, reinforcing that small daily improvements compound into extraordinary long-term results.

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