Espionage

Grusch Says Foreign Adversaries Know More About US Crash Retrieval Programs Than Congress

Reality Check with Ross Coulthart · Ross Coulthart Q&A: 'Disclosure Day' reaction, whistleblowers and Sean Kirkpatrick | Reality Check · June 14, 2026

Reality Check with Ross Coulthart

Ross Coulthart Q&A: 'Disclosure Day' reaction, whistleblowers and Sean Kirkpatrick | Reality Check

"I was in my official duties, I was exposed to human and signals intelligence information concerning foreign adversary UAP crash retrieval, exploitation and study efforts, adversary views on US legacy program reverse engineering efforts, and the US held audiovisual information related to crash retrieval matters, such as the recovered vehicles and the associated biological materials."

David Grusch testified at the Capitol that he reviewed intercepted intelligence showing foreign adversaries—likely China and Russia—possess detailed knowledge of U.S. crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs, while most of the Pentagon, intelligence community, Congress, and White House remain in the dark. Coulthart emphasized this reveals a constitutional crisis where public funds are being spent on programs with no congressional oversight.

About this episode

In this episode of Reality Check Q&A, host Ross Coulthart and Megan Medick dissect David Grusch's explosive Capitol Hill press conference where the former intelligence official publicly confirmed the U.S. government has knowledge of multiple non-human intelligence species and that foreign adversaries know more about American crash retrieval programs than Congress does. Coulthart, fresh from attending the premiere of Steven Spielberg's 'Disclosure Day,' drew stark parallels between the film's fictional disclosure scenario and Grusch's real-world revelations about bipedal humanoid beings and sentient plasmoids. The episode centers on what Coulthart characterizes as a constitutional crisis: billions in slush funds spent on UAP programs with no congressional oversight, legacy retrieval programs illegally transferred to private aerospace contractors during the Nixon era, and criminal acts including the alleged murder of a JSOC member to protect these secrets. Coulthart revealed he has corroborating intelligence from multiple sources and issued a stark warning to government gatekeepers that catastrophic uncontrolled disclosure will occur if the White House doesn't act. He specifically called out former AARO director Sean Kirkpatrick as a lying gatekeeper whose role was to obstruct disclosure, and criticized mainstream media including the New York Times for dismissing concerns about missing General Neil McCasland as conspiracy theory when it represents a genuine national security crisis. The episode concludes with Coulthart urging President Trump to make a historic decision on disclosure, arguing it would restore public faith in democracy and unite humanity by revealing we are not alone.

Key takeaways

Grusch testified he saw intercepted foreign intelligence showing China and Russia know details of U.S. crash retrieval programs unknown to Congress or most of the Pentagon.
Grusch publicly confirmed government awareness of multiple non-human species including bipedal humanoids like Nordics and Greys plus sentient plasmoids.
Coulthart revealed Nixon administration secretly transferred recovered craft from Department of Energy to private contractors in 1970s with no proper legal documentation.
Coulthart alleged a JSOC member was murdered by private aerospace contractor, with multiple intelligence and military sources confirming the account to him.
Grusch disclosed billions in slush funds used for UAP programs without congressional approval, violating Article 9 constitutional requirements.
Coulthart warned that catastrophic uncontrolled disclosure will occur if White House doesn't act, stating journalists are sitting on extensive evidence waiting to see if government acts honorably.
Former AARO director Sean Kirkpatrick accused of being a gatekeeper who ignored detailed legacy program evidence and now works at Oak Ridge National Laboratories tied to the program.