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Former Navy R&D Chief Admitted Being Read Into Non-Human Craft Recovery Programs

Reality Check with Ross Coulthart · Ross Coulthart Q&A: Whistleblowers, 'Manhattan Project 2.0' and China Lake · June 7, 2026
Former Navy R&D Chief Admitted Being Read Into Non-Human Craft Recovery Programs
Reality Check with Ross Coulthart
Reality Check with Ross Coulthart
Ross Coulthart Q&A: Whistleblowers, 'Manhattan Project 2.0' and China Lake
"Many years ago I spoke to a guy called Nat Kobitz from the US Navy Research Development. He was the head of R&D basically for the US Navy, chief geek. And I asked him about China Lake, and he admitted to me that he had been read in to certain programs, compartmentalized programs that involve the recovery of non-human craft."
Coulthart reveals that Nat Kobitz, former head of Navy Research and Development, directly confirmed to him being briefed into compartmentalized programs involving recovery of non-human craft. While Kobitz said China Lake didn't feature prominently as a development site during his tenure, his admission represents rare on-record confirmation from a senior military R&D official of crash retrieval program access.

About this episode

In this episode of Reality Check Q&A, host Ross Coulthart and colleague Megan Medick address viewer questions about upcoming UAP disclosure developments, focusing heavily on a planned June 9th Capitol event and behind-the-scenes White House deliberations. Coulthart reports that whistleblower David Grusch will expand on his previous congressional testimony about crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs at the Capitol steps press conference, organized by journalists Leslie Kean and James Fox alongside members of the UAP Caucus including Reps. Eric Burleson, Paulina Luna, Jared Moskowitz, and potentially Senator Kirsten Gillibrand and former Majority Leader Chuck Schumer. The event aims to pressure President Trump on his transparency pledges after the White House mocked the UAP topic with the aliens.gov immigration website. Coulthart reveals that White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller has engaged with Rep. Burleson on a proposed 60-day amnesty for legacy program insiders, signaling serious high-level consideration despite CIA and intelligence community resistance. Coulthart also discloses that China Lake weapons facility is experiencing disruptive UAP swarms and was allegedly used to down craft using psionics and directed energy. He addresses legal constraints facing contractors versus federal employees in whistleblowing, explains physicist Eric Weinstein's Manhattan Project comparisons, and interprets Lou Elizondo's cryptic warnings through the lens of the 1973 sci-fi novella Chains of the Sea, which depicts humanity's irrelevance to indifferent alien intelligences. Coulthart expresses concern the Trump administration may repeat JFK files-style delays, urging public attendance at the June 9th event to demonstrate demand for transparency.

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