Shapiro Argues Woke Right Now Favors Ceding Global Power to Russia and China

About this episode

In this monologue episode, Ben Shapiro presents an ideological framework arguing that fascism and Marxism share far more in common than typically acknowledged, and that both represent threats converging from opposite political extremes. Shapiro constructs a two-axis political matrix measuring government control versus nationalism/internationalism, positioning American conservatives like Reagan and Trump in a quadrant characterized by low government control and nationalism, distinct from both European conservatives (who favor higher state involvement) and libertarians (who reject national interests). He devotes significant attention to documenting fascism's socialist roots, citing Mussolini's Marxist background and excerpts from Hitler's 25-point Nazi platform that called for nationalization, profit-sharing, and welfare expansion. The core controversial claim is that what Shapiro terms the 'woke right'—figures like Nick Fuentes—and the Marxist left are forming a dangerous alliance, with Shapiro explicitly naming Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens as aligning with progressives Cenk Uygur and Hasan Piker. He asserts Fuentes has stated he will vote Democrat in the next election, evidence of this convergence. Shapiro argues the modern 'woke right' differs from historical fascism by embracing isolationism and even favoring ceding American global power to Russia and China, bringing them closer to Marxist internationalism. He accuses the post-World War II left of deliberately reframing Hitler's evil as nationalism rather than totalitarian control and racial supremacy, enabling decades of false equivalence between conservatives and Nazis. The episode concludes with warnings that this fascist-Marxist convergence, though not necessarily electorally dominant, poses significant danger to American principles of freedom, private property, and constitutional checks and balances.