Roll Reveals Gabor Maté Urged Him to Try Psychedelics a Decade Ago

What was said

"In fall of 2015, I flew to Vancouver to spend an afternoon with Gabor Maté. He did what he always does where he flipped the tables on me and it turned into basically a personal session where he was just dissecting my soul and immediately identified then, here's your malfunction, here's your dilemma, here's what you need to solve it. When we were saying our goodbyes, he said to me, 'I take people through these psychedelic experiences and I think you would really benefit from this.'"

Roll disclosed that addiction medicine specialist Gabor Maté identified his core psychological issues during a 2015 recording session and immediately suggested psychedelic therapy. Roll rejected the idea at the time due to his recovery identity and fear, but the recommendation represented an early indicator that these compounds could address his recursive patterns. The revelation shows how long Roll resisted this path before finally engaging with psychedelic therapy a decade later.