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The Legendary Hollywood Power Broker — Guy Oseary on 36 Years of Managing Madonna, 26 IPOs, and More

Tim Ferriss Show · 1h 27m · 3 Egleze moments
The Legendary Hollywood Power Broker — Guy Oseary on 36 Years of Managing Madonna, 26 IPOs, and More
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Tim Ferriss interviews Guy Oseary, the legendary music executive, manager, and tech investor, in Oseary's first-ever podcast appearance. Oseary, who has managed Madonna for 36 years, also manages U2 and Red Hot Chili Peppers, and co-founded Sound Ventures with Ashton Kutcher, achieving 86 exits and 26 IPOs including Uber, Airbnb, and Spotify. The conversation reveals Oseary's unconventional path from a teenager using a fake Beverly Hills address to attend high school, to signing Alanis Morissette off one song that sold 30 million albums, to becoming one of Silicon Valley's most successful Hollywood crossover investors. Oseary discloses his $35 million investment in Anthropic at a $5 billion valuation following ChatGPT's launch, made during a focused three-month deployment window for a specialized AI fund. He openly criticizes AI music companies like Suno for building billion-dollar valuations on artists' copyrighted material without compensation, calling for immediate opt-out mechanisms and payment structures. The episode also breaks news that Oseary and Ashton Kutcher are parting ways after 20 years as investment partners, pursuing different visions despite their recent massive AI fund success. Throughout, Oseary explains his extreme decision-making velocity, making 90% of choices within five minutes based on intuition and pattern recognition, a skill honed from decades of rapid artist identification in music's competitive landscape. He attributes much of his forward-momentum mindset to Madonna's influence, describing her relentless drive and refusal to rest on past accomplishments as foundational to his own approach.

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Guy Oseary deployed $35 million into Anthropic at $5 billion valuation after ChatGPT moment

Music mogul and tech investor Guy Oseary revealed he invested $35 million in Anthropic at a $5 billion valuation after recognizing ChatGPT as a transformational moment comparable to hearing Nirvana for the first time. He and partner Ashton Kutcher raised a specialized foundational AI fund in a three-month window following ChatGPT's November 2022 launch, deploying 80% of capital immediately. The bet has paid off dramatically, with Anthropic's most recent valuation reaching $60 billion.

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AI & Tech

Music manager demands AI companies like Suno pay artists before $10 billion valuation

Oseary publicly called out AI music generation company Suno, now valued at $5 billion and climbing toward $10 billion, for building its business on artists' music without paying them. He revealed he has met with Suno's CEO Mikey multiple times to address the issue and demanded artists be given the ability to opt out or be compensated. He noted that every two weeks, more music is now created by AI than exists on all of Spotify.

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Entertainment

Madonna's manager reveals Bernie Brillstein offered him $25K at age 16 with no strings attached

Oseary shared that legendary manager Bernie Brillstein offered him $25,000 at age 16 after a single meeting, asking only to be repaid if the investment succeeded. Oseary declined because he admitted he was a 'phony' who had no idea what to do with the money, though Brillstein believed it was due to integrity. The moment became a pivotal confirmation for Oseary that he was on the right path, and he later sent Brillstein his first gold record.

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