Episode summary
Conan O'Brien interviews Mick Jagger in a small London podcast studio to discuss the Rolling Stones' new album Foreign Tongues and Jagger's remarkable six-decade career. The conversation reveals Jagger as a forward-looking artist deliberately avoiding nostalgia, having forbidden producer Andy Watt from making musical references to past Stones hits like Jumpin' Jack Flash. Jagger discusses his competitive friendship with David Bowie, whom he describes as intensely competitive and admits borrowed heavily from the Stones' style for songs like Jean Genie. He reveals that John Lennon personally advised him never to meet Elvis Presley after Lennon's own disappointing 1965 encounter left him disillusioned, advice Jagger took to preserve his idealized image of his hero. The interview covers the hostile media environment of the 1960s, including shocking details about police violently beating teenage girls with nightsticks at early Stones concerts. Jagger discusses his meticulous attention to detail as the band's de facto manager, his vocal techniques including studying Al Green's falsetto transitions, and his philosophy of living in the present moment. He describes the band's rapid recording process for Foreign Tongues, deliberately avoiding filler and setting a high bar for every track. Technical mishaps during the AI-enhanced video for In the Stars are revealed, including the software accidentally rendering Jeff Beck instead of Ronnie Wood. Throughout, Jagger emerges as deeply curious, well-read, competitive about his craft, and committed to creating contemporary music rather than trading on past glories.