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The Basement: Michael Salla | Nordics, Grays, and the Secret Space Program

The Why Files · 12 October 2026 · 4h 11m · 3 Egleze moments
The Basement: Michael Salla | Nordics, Grays, and the Secret Space Program ▶

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AJ of The Why Files interviews exopolitics writer Dr Michael Salla, who recounts his earlier career in peace and conflict research in East Timor, Sri Lanka and Kosovo, including being detained by Indonesian authorities while attempting to contact guerrilla leaders. He describes his turn towards UFO-related research after watching Steven Greer’s 2001 National Press Club event, saying his background in fieldwork helped him judge witness credibility.

Salla alleges American University initially permitted his UFO interest as long as it did not bring “dispute” to the institution, but later threatened him over a Washington Post profile and ultimately ended the programme he was running. He also claims mainstream journals refused to consider his work on “exopolitics”.

The conversation moves into contested UFO history and disclosure narratives. Salla attributes President Eisenhower’s 1954 disappearance to a covert transfer to Edwards Air Force Base, citing testimony he says came from an Air Force medic, and he outlines further alleged meetings at Holloman AFB. He advances a series of broader claims: a purported UN initiative on UFOs linked to Grenada’s Sir Eric Gairy; allegations that covert factions within the US state are in conflict over disclosure; and accounts involving a source called “JP”, who Salla says was drawn into military-linked operations after reporting encounters and imagery.

Salla argues Space Force’s creation represents de facto disclosure and suggests internal resistance included formal restrictions on discussion inside the Air Force, though the episode does not provide documentary proof. The host repeatedly signals scepticism about several claims while noting some elements—such as the UN decision Salla references—appear documentable.

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12 October 2026
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4h 11m
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UFO & Paranormal

Dr Michael Salla alleges Frank Stranges displayed fake academic certificates

Dr Michael Salla · at 1:09:17 · Attributed speaker claim
I took photos of some of these and and then I checked them out. Oh no. I checked them out and they were fake. Oh no. And that was the paradox. It was like, what the f is going on with this guy? I mean, he feel he felt authentic and he had this incredible story, but he's displaying fake certificates.

Dr Michael Salla says that during a visit to UFO author Frank Stranges, he photographed certificates on Stranges’ office wall and later concluded they were fake. Salla adds that he still found Stranges personally credible and argues some UFO figures may keep discrediting details as protection.

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UFO & Paranormal

Salla alleges “JP” was urged to enlist for access to covert activity

Dr Michael Salla · at 1:49:59 · Attributed speaker claim
the Air Force operatives said, "Well, look, as long as you're a civilian, you're going to be denied access to certain things that we want you to see and we want you to talk about it. So, you need to join the military." "and and if you join the military, you'll be protected as well from these other people that don't want you to reveal this information."

Dr Michael Salla alleges a source he calls “JP” was encouraged by people he describes as Air Force operatives to visit facilities and take photos, then turned away for being a civilian. Salla claims they urged JP to enlist for access and protection, and says JP later joined the US Army and was stationed at Eglin Air Force Base despite a water-systems repair speciality.

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Combat & UFC

Dr Michael Salla alleges Heather Wilson silenced talk of independent Space Force

Dr Michael Salla · at 2:21:16 · Attributed speaker claim
there was a gag order that Heather Wilson issued and I talk about it in in the book Space Force, our Star Trek Future, to put out a gag order to prevent Air Force officers for talking about the need for an independent space organization.

Dr Michael Salla alleges that former US Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson issued a gag order barring officers from advocating an independent space service. He points to his own book as the basis for the claim.