“Why Did You Kill My Father?” — Ex-Mafia Underboss Reveals the Call | PBD Podcast #865

Patrick Bet-David interviews former Gambino underboss and co-operating witness Samuel “Sammy the Bull” Gravano, focusing on disputed accounts of major Gambino-era murders and on current legal controversy involving James Comey. Gravano attacks John Gotti Jr’s public claims about the Castellano murder, calling them false, and offers extended detail about the killing of contractor Louis Deono, alleging Deono was murdered in a World Trade Center garage after John Gotti ordered his son to carry out the hit. Gravano also asserts that mafia-connected figures were involved in World Trade Center construction work, describing a labour-and-contracting arrangement that allegedly generated profits.

The conversation turns to high-emotion personal confrontations: Gravano says he received a respectful phone call from the son of Johnny Santiago asking why his father was killed, and Gravano claims the shooting was unauthorised and that his own role was cleaning up evidence. He also revisits the killing of 16-year-old Alan Kaiser, describing the intended target, the planned ruse, and his insistence that he did not fire the shotgun.

Bet-David raises reporting that prosecutors sought Gravano’s input about whether “86” implies murder in the Comey “8647” seashell-post case. Gravano says someone identifying as FBI called him, but he declined to engage without parole approval and says he would only respond to a subpoena. He adds, without detail, that he has been in the same room as Comey “multiple times”, and speculates about the risk of retaliation if he is called as a witness. The episode ends with Gravano discussing his baptism, renewed churchgoing, and involvement with an education-focused programme.

• Gravano alleges John Gotti ordered John Gotti Jr to kill contractor Louis Deono, and says the killing occurred at the World Trade Center parking/garage area.
• Gravano says organised-crime figures benefited from World Trade Center construction-related contracting work, describing a non-union/union bidding scheme.
• Gravano recounts a call from a man he identifies as Johnny Santiago’s son asking why his father was killed; Gravano says the shooting was unauthorised and that he helped dispose of evidence afterward.
• Gravano gives a detailed account of the Alan Kaiser killing, saying Kaiser was not the target and that another man fired the fatal shotgun shots.
• Gravano says someone claiming to be FBI contacted him about the Comey “8647” matter; he says he refused to speak without parole clearance and would only engage if subpoenaed.
• Gravano claims he has been in the same room as James Comey multiple times but declines to explain the circumstances.
• Gravano says he has been baptised privately and now attends mass, describing faith as part of his effort to change his life.