What happened in this episode?
Piers Morgan interviews US political scientist Norman Finkelstein on Gaza, Western politics and accountability, before moving into a combative panel segment on musicians, speech and the war’s framing. Finkelstein argues Israeli public opinion overwhelmingly backs the military campaign and defends his past claim that Israel has become “a nation of child killers”, prompting Morgan to challenge collective blame and compare it to labelling all Gazans as Hamas. Finkelstein also cites the July 2024 International Court of Justice advisory opinion as ending the “peace process” paradigm and says sanctions should be used to force Israeli withdrawal from occupied territories.
The discussion then pivots to Ed Sheeran’s on-stage apology after rapper McLemore was removed from tour dates, with Winston Marshall criticising the handling of the controversy, and Glenn Greenwald accusing wealthy, pro-Israel venue owners of coordinated pressure. A separate flashpoint is sexual violence on 7 October: Finkelstein disputes the evidentiary basis for rape allegations, while Morgan and others argue the absence of footage does not negate survivor reporting.
In the final segment, Morgan interviews Arab Barghouti, son of imprisoned Palestinian leader Marwan Barghouti. Barghouti claims his father has been held in solitary confinement since 7 October and alleges torture and assaults, saying he has not had contact for years. He portrays his father as a unifying, pro-two-state figure and denies allegations that Barghouti ordered civilian killings, while condemning the targeting of civilians in principle.
