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“They are Still Lying” - 9/11 Victims Kids

Julian Dorey Daily · 22 September 2026 · 1h 0m · 2 Egleze moments
“They are Still Lying” - 9/11 Victims Kids ▶

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Julian Dorey speaks with two guests, Matt and David, who lost their fathers in the World Trade Centre attacks, focusing on how families learned what was happening, the long aftermath, and the difficulty of grieving a globally broadcast event. Matt, who says his father worked at Cantor Fitzgerald on the 105th floor, recalls being left at school while parents collected other children, and describes his mother receiving a call from his father shortly after the first impact. He also describes later learning his father was initially identified by a wallet recovered from his pocket, and says the family continued receiving cremated remains over time.

David recounts a similar experience of staying in school, arriving home to find cars outside, and then seeing the television footage; he says his memory of the immediate period afterwards is fragmented. Both guests discuss how repeated replay and online availability of the attacks’ footage complicate private mourning, and how their approaches to grief differed within their families.

In the latter part of the episode, Matt describes visiting the 9/11 memorial and meeting a medical examiner, including his understanding of how remains are managed between unidentified cases and cases where families have opted out of further contact. The speakers also read from an ABC News report about a 9/11 victim identification using forensic genetic genealogy, and discuss how new DNA techniques may continue to identify victims decades later. They briefly touch on online “lost footage” folklore and how younger audiences often encounter 9/11 via internet culture rather than lived memory.

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Julian Dorey Daily
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22 September 2026
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1h 0m
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Guest Matt says his father was initially identified by a wallet found in his pocket

Matt (surname not provided) · at 22:00 · Attributed speaker claim
He was found basically two days later and he was identified by his wallet that was in his pocket.

Matt, a guest whose father died in the 11 September attacks, says his family were told his father was found about two days after the attacks and was initially identified via a wallet recovered from his pocket. He adds that additional remains were confirmed at later points, and that he later reviewed his father’s file and report during a visit connected to the 9/11 memorial and the medical examiner’s office.

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ABC News report, read aloud on the podcast, describes first 9/11 identification using genetic genealogy

Host (unnamed in transcript excerpt) · at 59:00 · Attributed speaker claim
Now, for the first time, the city's office of the chief medical examiner and the NYPD detective bureau have identified a 9/11 victim using genetic genealogy, which combines DNA testing with family tree research.

During the episode, the host reads from what is described as an ABC News report stating that New York City’s Office of the Chief Medical Examiner and the NYPD identified a 9/11 victim using genetic genealogy, combining DNA testing with family-tree research. The excerpt read on air also cites the report’s figure of 1,654 formally identified victims and includes a quotation attributed to Chief Medical Examiner Dr Jason Graham about applying new methods to the World Trade Center identification effort.