Episode summary
Piers Morgan interviews Captain Steve Shidner, a former American Airlines first officer based in Boston who says he was originally assigned as the right-seat pilot for American Airlines Flight 11 on 11 September 2001 but was bumped at the last minute by a more senior pilot, Tom McGinness. Shidner describes seeing his name on the flight manifest on 10 September, packing to fly to Los Angeles, and then not receiving the usual confirmation call. He says he spent 9/11 on a US Navy base—where he was working as a reservist—watching events unfold without realising for most of the day that Flight 11 was the trip he had expected to fly.
He recounts discovering the crew manifest later that night and seeing airline system wording indicating the flight ‘never made it to its destination’, and describes the emotional aftermath for his family. Shidner also says American Airlines scheduling called him on the afternoon of 9/11 offering him a trip the next day—again, Flight 11—before flights resumed several days later. He recalls returning to the air on the renamed Boston–Los Angeles service (Flight 25), and says he personally thanked the small number of passengers who boarded.
The conversation touches on forgiveness and faith, Shidner’s contact with McGinness’s widow, his view that institutional failures contributed to 9/11, and his rejection of demolition conspiracy theories. He also outlines how pilot training and cockpit security doctrine changed after 9/11, moving from compliance and negotiation towards resisting cockpit breaches.