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“We’re MASTERS OF THE PYRAMIDS” 😲 Jesse INTERVIEWED Rapper G*nplay! (JLP Clips) 2026-09-05 19:17

The Fallen State · 5 September 2026 · 26m · 1 Egleze moment
“We’re MASTERS OF THE PYRAMIDS” 😲 Jesse INTERVIEWED Rapper G*nplay! (JLP Clips) 2026-09-05 19:17 ▶

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Jesse Lee Peterson interviews rapper Don Logan, known as Gunplay, in a wide-ranging conversation mixing personal history, religion and social commentary. Gunplay argues that divisions within black communities are rooted in historical oppression and media portrayals, while Peterson disputes elements of that framing and steers the discussion towards gender roles, anger and Christian doctrine. Gunplay rejects Christianity and says he practises Santería, describing it as “voodoo” in Haitian Creole and discussing spirits (orishas) and ritual animal sacrifice; he says he has participated and that blood is offered to a spirit, not consumed.

Gunplay also recounts criminal-adjacent experiences and attitudes. He says he began using and selling cocaine at 16 and, when pressed on selling to black people, says he “didn’t care at the time”, later suggesting he came to different conclusions after doing “research”. He describes prior jail stints, including time in a one-man cell awaiting trial, and says his first felony occurred at 13. He further says he previously worked as a pimp, describing it as “selling women” and calling it “exhausting”.

The interview touches on masculinity, social media culture and entertainers wearing dresses, with both men offering interpretations rather than evidence-based claims. Gunplay discusses a prominent tattoo depicting Jesus and “evil”, and he voices support for the Second Amendment before the interview closes with a donation and subscription appeal from the host.

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The Fallen State
Published
5 September 2026
Duration
26m
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Gunplay says he began practising Santería while facing a possible life sentence in Miami

Don Logan (Gunplay) · at 10:49 · Attributed speaker claim
I got into I got into the Santa Maria. I got into Santa Maria when I when I was facing a life sentence punishable by life, a PBL in Miami, and I there was had to be something bigger than just you know this physical world that could stop this from happening. So you know I got said it has to be something bigger than prayer.

Rapper Don Logan, known as Gunplay, tells the interviewer he “got into” Santería when he says he was facing a “life sentence punishable by life” in Miami. He says he believed he needed something “bigger than prayer” or church, and claims he later “beat the case” and that the religion “balanced” him out.