Jesse Lee Peterson interviews rapper Don Logan, known as Gunplay, in a wide-ranging conversation mixing personal history, religion and social commentary. Gunplay argues that divisions within black communities are rooted in historical oppression and media portrayals, while Peterson disputes elements of that framing and steers the discussion towards gender roles, anger and Christian doctrine. Gunplay rejects Christianity and says he practises Santería, describing it as “voodoo” in Haitian Creole and discussing spirits (orishas) and ritual animal sacrifice; he says he has participated and that blood is offered to a spirit, not consumed.
Gunplay also recounts criminal-adjacent experiences and attitudes. He says he began using and selling cocaine at 16 and, when pressed on selling to black people, says he “didn’t care at the time”, later suggesting he came to different conclusions after doing “research”. He describes prior jail stints, including time in a one-man cell awaiting trial, and says his first felony occurred at 13. He further says he previously worked as a pimp, describing it as “selling women” and calling it “exhausting”.
The interview touches on masculinity, social media culture and entertainers wearing dresses, with both men offering interpretations rather than evidence-based claims. Gunplay discusses a prominent tattoo depicting Jesus and “evil”, and he voices support for the Second Amendment before the interview closes with a donation and subscription appeal from the host.
Rapper Don Logan, known as Gunplay, tells the interviewer he “got into” Santería when he says he was facing a “life sentence punishable by life” in Miami. He says he believed he needed something “bigger than prayer” or church, and claims he later “beat the case” and that the religion “balanced” him out.
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