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"Man-Made Black Holes" CERN Physicist Warns of New Dark Matter Discovery | Daniel Whiteson

Danny Jones Podcast · 4 September 2026 · 2h 48m · 3 Egleze moments

What happened in this episode?

CERN physicist and podcaster Daniel Whiteson discusses current unknowns in cosmology, arguing that dark matter is supported by multiple independent observations but remains unidentified at the particle level. He describes collider searches for invisible particles via missing momentum signatures and says his own decade-long dark-matter work ended without a detection, pushing him towards broader ‘surprise’ searches in collider data.

The conversation turns to dark energy and the universe’s expansion, including Whiteson’s explanation that dark energy appears to maintain constant density as space expands. He argues that, in this cosmological context, global energy conservation does not behave like a closed-system rule, citing redshifting photons and the growth of dark energy with volume.

Whiteson also outlines why some physicists hoped the LHC might create microscopic black holes that would rapidly evaporate, allowing tests of Hawking radiation and quantum-gravity ideas; he says naturally occurring cosmic-ray collisions support safety arguments against ‘planet-destroying’ black-hole fears. The host and guest review reports about James Webb observations of unexpectedly early, massive galaxies and discuss open questions such as the rapid growth of supermassive black holes.

Later, Whiteson expresses scepticism about UFO/UAP claims, recounting a call from a US congressperson who allegedly said classified videos looked no more striking than public Navy clips. The episode finishes with debate over AI’s role in science, research funding priorities, and Whiteson’s view that NASA science ambitions are constrained more by political will than by technical capability.

What are the key points?

Whiteson says dark matter is strongly evidenced astrophysically but its microphysical nature remains unknown and collider searches remain indirect.
He argues dark energy’s constant density implies the universe’s total energy does not behave like a conserved quantity in simple closed-system terms.
Whiteson says physicists hoped the LHC could create microscopic black holes to study evaporation and potentially test Hawking radiation.
He says cosmic rays provide a natural safety check against claims that collider-made black holes could destroy Earth.
He describes JWST observations as suggesting some galaxies appeared earlier or more massive than expected in some models.
Whiteson recounts (without naming) a congressperson telling him classified UAP footage was not more compelling than public clips.
He criticises constrained budgets for ambitious NASA science missions, arguing potential Europa-life searches are affordable relative to other spending.

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Daniel Whiteson

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Published: 4 September 2026
Duration: 2h 48m
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Daniel Whiteson says global energy conservation breaks down in an expanding universe

Daniel Whiteson · at 28:08 · Attributed speaker claim

"Conservation of energy. As you say, like energy can't be destroyed or created. But actually, we've discovered that's not true, right? that conservation of energy is something people assume and talk about and it seems obvious but what we've discovered is the expansion of the universe tells us that energy can be created and destroyed and it's happening all the time."

Daniel Whiteson tells the show that the common slogan “energy can’t be created or destroyed” does not hold in a simple global sense for the universe as a whole, and he points to expansion-related effects in cosmology—such as dark energy’s constant density and the redshifting of photons—as examples where the total energy budget does not behave like a closed system.

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Daniel Whiteson says JWST observations showed galaxies forming earlier than expected

Daniel Whiteson · at 37:21 · Attributed speaker claim

"James Webb went and looked okay can we see early galaxies forming and it saw a bunch of stuff that was a surprise." "Number one which I think you're mentioning is it saw galaxies forming way earlier than we thought."

Daniel Whiteson says the James Webb Space Telescope’s look at early galaxy formation produced surprises, including galaxies appearing to form earlier than expected under some models. He presents this as a sign that parts of the standard story of structure formation may need refinement, rather than as a claim that the universe is older.

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Daniel Whiteson says potential Europa ocean missions would cost ‘chump change’ compared with national spending

Daniel Whiteson · at 1:53:29 · Attributed speaker claim

"They have ambitions to do that, but they don't have the money. Like, it would cost a few billion, which is like nothing. It's chump change."

Daniel Whiteson argues NASA has ambitious science goals—such as missions aimed at probing Europa’s subsurface ocean for possible life—but lacks the funding and political support to pursue them at scale. He characterises a few billion dollars as a relatively small sum given the potential scientific payoff and contrasts NASA science work with commercial launch priorities.

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