Jason Quitt, a Canadian author and self-described investigator/experiencer, tells the Area52 host he began having frequent sleep paralysis episodes in the early 2000s which he later interpreted as a gateway to out-of-body experiences. He recounts a first experience in which he says anger and fear culminated in perceiving himself on the ceiling, seeing a shadowy ‘Grim Reaper’-like figure at the foot of his bed, and then snapping back into his body.
Much of the discussion centres on how Quitt interprets non-ordinary states: he argues that the ‘mind awake, body asleep’ condition can be induced via meditation, naps, or early-morning wakefulness, and claims excitement or intentional control can end an episode. He describes recurring encounters with ‘mantis’ entities and says he has also seen ‘greys’ and ‘reptilians’ during altered states.
Quitt advances a contested thesis that many alien abduction narratives follow the same sequence as out-of-body experiences and sleep paralysis, potentially explaining why witnesses report being taken through walls or into craft. He also shares a highly emotive account of being shown what he believed to be a ‘hybrid’ child in a nursery-like setting, and describes returning later to meet the same child older.
Outside UFO themes, Quitt claims to have achieved near-instant improvement after finger injuries using breath-focused ‘energy’ work with crystals and oils, and he outlines a reinterpretation of Plato’s Atlantis as an astronomical allegory tied to pole-star/precession cycles rather than a literal lost continent.
Jason Quitt recalls that early in his out-of-body experiences he felt “called to help through transitions”, including what he interpreted as being “called by aliens”. He says he left his body and encountered a frightened being he describes as an alien hiding in a cave in a desert-like setting.
Read this moment →Discussing his book on Atlantis, Quitt argues Plato embedded astronomical knowledge in the story, linking the quoted 9,000-year timeframe to the position of the north celestial pole relative to the constellation Hercules. He claims the narrative functions as an ‘as above, so below’ allegory for precession and the changing pole star, rather than a literal map to a sunken landmass.
Read this moment →Quitt says he continues to see ‘shadow’ entities and suggests some may be other living people in altered states, while others could be split-off aspects created by trauma. He links the idea to shamanic ‘soul fragmentation’, arguing an apparent ‘attack’ could be a broken part of the self seeking reintegration rather than an external being.
Read this moment →Quitt says that in early years of his experiences he repeatedly saw tall ‘manted beings’ in his room while in an altered, paralysis-like state. He describes attempting to speak to them and believing they were surprised he could perceive them, after which he says he was ‘knocked back out’.
Read this moment →Quitt tells the host he believes many ‘abduction’ narratives can be explained as consciousness separation during sleep paralysis, rather than a physical event, describing a step-by-step overlap between reports collected by late journalist Bob Mitchell and out-of-body experiences. He adds that, in his own non-physical episodes, he says he has encountered beings commonly described in abduction stories, including ‘mantids’, ‘greys’ and ‘reptilians’.
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