In this short excerpt from Armchair Expert, Dax Shepard interviews a true-crime author about his book on the Moscow, Idaho student murders case involving Bryan Kohberger (referred to in the transcript as “Brian Coberger”) and a plea hearing described as taking place on 2 July 2025. The guest says the case did not go to trial and argues that, as a result, key investigative details were not tested in public. He describes his book’s structure as being built around primary-source materials — police documents and interview transcripts — rather than his own theorising, and says he spent months reviewing a large portion of the police file.
The guest outlines what he calls the prosecution’s three main “pillars”: DNA on a knife sheath, a white car linked to Kohberger, and cell-tower information. He also claims prosecutors’ timeline ultimately allowed roughly three-and-a-half to five minutes for the killings. He highlights that two surviving residents were not killed and says the 911 call came about eight hours after the suspected time of the attacks, after friends were summoned to the house and the incident was initially reported as a “medical emergency”.
A central point is a 56–60 minute body-camera video from the first response. The guest claims it captures details that differ from popular understanding of the crime scene, including an officer’s initial on-camera remark suggesting the scene looked like a possible murder-suicide. He also references Brady disclosure obligations and characterises the disclosed material as “terabytes” of information.
Discussing the prosecution’s theory, the guest says the state’s timeline was “3.5 to 5 minutes” to “kill 4 human beings.” He also says two other people in the house were not killed and that a 911 call came “a full 8 hours later,” after friends were called over and it was reported as a “medical emergency.”
Read this moment →The guest, a true-crime author who says he reviewed a 56–60 minute police body-camera recording, claims the first responding officer initially interpreted the scene as a possible murder-suicide when he located two victims on the second floor of the Moscow, Idaho house. He argues the bodycam record is “indisputable” and that early impressions on scene differed from what the public later believed during the period of a gag order.
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