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World-Renowned Physicist: The Truth About Aliens! UFOs Are Definitely Robotic - Michio Kaku

Diary of a CEO · 21 May 2026 · 5 Egleze moments
World-Renowned Physicist: The Truth About Aliens! UFOs Are Definitely Robotic - Michio Kaku ▶

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In this wide-ranging conversation, host Steven Bartlett interviews legendary theoretical physicist Dr. Michio Kaku, co-founder of string field theory and author of multiple books on the physics of the future. The episode centers on humanity's biggest unanswered questions: where we came from, whether we're alone in the universe, and what the future holds as transformative technologies reshape civilization. Kaku, who has spent 71 years studying physics since age eight, opens by explaining string theory—his life's work attempting to complete Einstein's dream of a unified theory of everything. He describes the universe as originating from a Big Bang roughly 14 billion years ago, potentially part of a "bubble bath" multiverse where countless universes coexist in 11-dimensional space. Addressing recent declassified UFO files released by President Trump, Kaku states he found no smoking gun evidence but remains open-minded, theorizing that any visiting craft would likely be robotic rather than biological given the extreme forces involved. He warns that quantum computers pose an existential threat to digital security and could crack Bitcoin and all known encryption within decades, prompting urgent CIA concern. On artificial intelligence, Kaku predicts menial jobs will vanish but argues true creativity remains beyond current AI capabilities, though he advocates for humans merging with machines to remain competitive. He reveals that scientists have identified telomeres and telomerase as the keys to potential human immortality, but the same mechanism is exploited by cancer cells. Throughout, Kaku reflects on how his two years in the U.S. Army during the Vietnam War era fundamentally changed his worldview, teaching him that morality and meaning are not universal but constructed by individuals and cultures. He remains agnostic about God, viewing religion as evolutionary "glue" that holds intelligent societies together when pure reason fails.

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Health, Longevity & Biohacking

Physicist Says Immortality Tantalizing Close But Cancer Uses Same Mechanism

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We have a time limit. We've also discovered telomerase, a chemical that stops the clock. If there's a clock in our body called the telomeres that tracks how long we're gonna live, and there's something called telomerase which stops the clock, then can we live forever? But the bad news was we found out that cancer also uses telomeres and telomerase to live forever.

Dr. Kaku explained that scientists have identified telomeres as the biological clock limiting human lifespan and telomerase as the enzyme that can stop that clock, bringing indefinite human lifespan within theoretical reach. However, the same mechanism that could grant humans immortality is exploited by cancer cells, creating a dangerous double-edged sword that researchers must solve before extending human life becomes safe.

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AI & Tech

String Theory Physicist Says Quantum Computers Could Crack All Bitcoin Encryption

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With this, you'd be able to crack any code. If a thief has your digital code, there goes your life savings out the window. Capitalism would vanish. Society would come to a halt. Even the CIA is worried about the fact that these could become so powerful that they allow you to break into any known computer.

Dr. Kaku warned that quantum computers, which compute on atoms rather than transistors, will eventually possess the power to break all existing digital encryption, including Bitcoin. He noted that the CIA is closely monitoring quantum computing development because it poses an existential threat to digital security, banking systems, and potentially capitalism itself once the technology matures.

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UFO & Paranormal

Kaku Reviewed Trump UFO Files Finds No Smoking Gun for Alien Contact

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I've looked at the whole batch, 160 or so sightings. Was there anything in there that was compelling to you? No, just lights dancing in the sky without any commentary. We don't know what they are, but they could be extraterrestrial. These things are two-dimensional. They're taken by a camera, which flattens the image. Therefore, to judge distance is very tricky.

After reviewing the approximately 160 declassified UFO encounters released by President Trump, Dr. Kaku stated he found no definitive evidence of extraterrestrial visitation. While remaining open to the possibility, he noted the footage consists primarily of ambiguous lights captured on two-dimensional cameras where distance and scale cannot be accurately determined, falling short of the tangible hardware evidence that would constitute proof.

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UFO & Paranormal

Physicist Michio Kaku Claims UFOs Are Likely Robotic Not Biological Beings

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If I were to shoot in the dark, I'd say first of all, they're robotic. They're not organic at all. These flying saucers can zigzag. They can dive from 70,000 feet all the way down. They can dive underwater. These require skills and tensions and vibrations that would crack any known US device in half.

Dr. Michio Kaku stated that observed UAPs performing extreme maneuvers are likely robotic rather than piloted by biological beings, as the forces involved would crush any known organic life. He suggested that if alien visitors exist, they deployed autonomous probes rather than risking biological crews, which would explain why they haven't made direct contact despite alleged sightings dating back millennia.

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AI & Tech

Kaku Predicts Humanity Will Merge With Robots to Avoid AI Threat

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My personal attitude is that we should eventually merge with them. Become superhuman. We are still looking the same, except we have superhuman abilities and our brain is connected either directly or by remote control to a central nervous system that does the calculations and performs these calculations much better than we can.

The renowned physicist proposed that humanity's best strategy for coexisting with increasingly powerful artificial intelligence is to merge with machines rather than compete against them. Kaku envisions a future where humans maintain their appearance but gain superhuman abilities through neural interfaces connecting to external computational systems, effectively becoming cyborgs to remain relevant.