Episode summary
Prem Tucker interviews Kai Newkirk, a democratic socialist community organizer running in Arizona's 4th congressional district Democratic primary against incumbent Greg Stanton. Newkirk, who identifies as a follower of Martin Luther King Jr.'s tradition of nonviolent resistance, has filed a complaint with Arizona's Attorney General alleging the Israeli government is illegally interfering in U.S. elections through an AI-powered texting campaign run by Brad Parscale, Trump's former campaign manager. The complaint centers on what Newkirk describes as a foreign government-funded operation targeting voters in his district and nationwide to influence opinion on U.S.-Israel relations. Newkirk draws a stark moral contrast with Stanton, whose top contributor is AIPAC, declaring he would go to jail before accepting AIPAC money and calling Stanton 'morally disqualified' for what he terms complicity in genocide in Gaza. The candidate advocates for a complete arms embargo on Israel, opposes all military aid, and says Stanton should 'wash the feet of the orphans of Gaza' to recover his human dignity. Beyond Israel-Palestine, Newkirk discusses his extensive organizing background including leading the 2016 Democracy Spring protests that resulted in the largest single-day arrest at the U.S. Capitol in history, being the first to film inside the Supreme Court during a Citizens United protest, and organizing sit-ins at Senator Mark Kelly's office. He positions himself in the wave of democratic socialist primary victories exemplified by Zohran Mamdani's win in New York, arguing that common working-class struggles around housing costs, healthcare, and economic inequality make democratic socialist policies viable even in less progressive districts than New York City. Newkirk calls for abolishing ICE, supports Bernie Sanders and AOC's moratorium on AI data centers, opposes a Meta facility planned for his district, and refuses to support Hakeem Jeffries for Democratic leader due to AIPAC funding and insufficient opposition to Trump.