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In To Me, See. - SS7

Stay Free with Russell Brand · 7 June 2026 · 4 Egleze moments
In To Me, See. - SS7 ▶

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Russell and Laura Brand hosted their weekly Sunday Service podcast, opening with prayer and Russell's birthday reflections following an intense week that included two nights at a Miami children's hospital for their son Herbie's sleep study. The episode centered on the concept of spiritual intimacy with God, with Russell drawing heavily from Catholic mystic Ruth Burrows' writings on St. Teresa's Interior Castle and St. John of the Cross. Russell argued that modern technology, particularly smartphones and algorithmically-driven content, embodies spiritual evil by preventing contemplative access to God through constant distraction and accusatory internal voices. He positioned these devices as 'literally diabolical,' citing how children's content is engineered to capture young minds with precise psychological manipulation. The Brands discussed their hospital experience, where Russell encountered twin children suffering from severe 'butterfly skin' eczema, which he compared to biblical leprosy and framed as a spiritual blessing exposing the limitations of worldly fairness. Laura reflected on intimate moments caring for Herbie overnight in the hospital, connecting parental closeness to divine intimacy. Russell read extensively from Proverbs 8 on wisdom, emphasizing that 'all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it,' linking this to Buddhist concepts of ending desire. He revealed that director Christopher Nolan has never used smartphones or email, suggesting this explains his imaginative films. The episode concluded with Ruth Burrows' reflection on the Incarnation's kenosis—that God 'became flesh' rather than merely clothed himself in it—as the model for embracing full humanity. Throughout, Russell emphasized that intimacy with God requires releasing control and simply receiving, contrasting his earlier martial approach to meditation with his current Christian practice of surrender.

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Faith & Spirituality

Brand Claims Smartphones Contain Observable Toxicity Attributed to Fallen One

at 23:36 · Attributed speaker claim
These devices contain within them the observable toxicity and parasitic nature that I attribute to the enemy, the fallen one. How do we encounter the devil? In the institutions of our kind. In the culture itself.

Russell Brand argued that modern technology, particularly smartphones and devices, embody spiritual evil through accusatory voices and cultural distraction. He connected this to addiction patterns and spiritual warfare, specifically citing how algorithmically-generated children's content is 'literally diabolical' in its design to capture young minds. Brand positioned technology as preventing access to God through constant distraction.

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Entertainment

Brand Reveals Christopher Nolan Never Used Smartphone or Email in Career

at 30:40 · Attributed speaker claim
Christopher Nolan, the director of Batman, Interstellar, has never had a smartphone and has never used email. He said people print off emails and show him if there's an interesting thing or if someone's writing to him.

Brand cited the renowned director's complete avoidance of smartphones and email throughout his career, suggesting a connection between Nolan's lack of digital absorption and his imagination-rich films. Brand contrasted this with Silicon Valley tech leaders who similarly restrict their own children's device access, framing it as insider knowledge about technology's cognitive dangers.

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Faith & Spirituality

Brand Claims Intimacy with God Transcends Sexual Union as Imitation

at 37:15 · Attributed speaker claim
Sex, coitus, conjugal contact, can seem so intimate. But it is itself an imitation of the deep intimacy one can know pre-materially, supernaturally, intimately, and within.

Brand positioned sexual intimacy as derivative of a more fundamental spiritual union with God, accessible through meditation and contemplation. Drawing on Catholic mystic Ruth Burrows and writings of St. Teresa, he argued that God's presence is 'closer to us than we are to ourselves' and constantly available, contrasting worldly pleasure with supernatural intimacy.

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Faith & Spirituality

Brand Describes Hospital Encounter with Butterfly Skin Twins as Spiritual Blessing

at 39:20 · Attributed speaker claim
These two Spanish-speaking and brilliant twins in remote-controlled wheelchairs. This condition of butterfly skin, someone later remarked, perhaps is like a modern-day equivalent of leprosy. The girl in particular was so bright and expressive and forthcoming.

During his son's hospital stay for a sleep study, Brand encountered twin children suffering from severe eczema that destroys extremities, comparing the condition to biblical leprosy. He framed the meeting as exposing the limitations of worldly fairness and as an invitation to recognize spiritual reality beyond material circumstances, emphasizing the children's brightness despite visible suffering.